Do ALL INTJs get into things like math and science? [Archive]

evilcocoapuffs

01-05-2009, 06:28 PM

Synamon

01-05-2009, 06:31 PM

Do ALL INTJ's get into things like math and science?
Just the cool ones.

Do all INTJ's care about infinite knowledge, has any INTJ started theorizing on life that they've spent a lot of time wandering?
Not I.

One more post and you can access the links in the Online Test section of the forum, perhaps that will help answer some of your questions regarding type.

Ryokurin

01-05-2009, 06:35 PM

No. I for one can barely do Algebra 1. I've always been very bad at math. Science wasn't a issue (my standard thing was to read the chapter the night before, and I always got a B or A) and I excelled in history, but thats because I loved watching the history channel back in High School. But overall those were the only subjects I was decent in. I never made the honor roll, and up until high school I wasn't all that great with English as well. (probably because I didn't like writing by hand. I got a lot better, when I got a computer)

Dave C C

01-05-2009, 06:39 PM

No, I learn what I need to accomplish goals.

evilcocoapuffs

01-05-2009, 07:04 PM

One more post and you can access the links in the Online Test section of the forum, perhaps that will help answer some of your questions regarding type.[/QUOTE]

I came up as INTJ but the supplementary scores showed something and INFP, which is more me I think then anything else.

Synamon

01-05-2009, 07:09 PM

Have you read the type descriptions here (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)? That can be very helpful if the tests are unclear.

errrzarrr

01-05-2009, 07:10 PM

I would say I approach things in a logical/rational/unbiassed fashion way but I am very aware not everything in life is logical/mechanichal like Math or Science.

rara avis

01-05-2009, 07:12 PM

Just the cool ones.

I'm not cool. I haven't passed pre-algebra, with three [half-hearted] attempts under my belt. Not a math person. I did enjoy music theory, though...

Harmony

01-05-2009, 07:33 PM

I'm okay at math, suck at science... I've always been good at English and artsy stuff. =)

Sesshoumaru

01-05-2009, 08:19 PM

I tend to like pretty much all subjects.

Growing up I did tend to prefer math/sciences although I actually ended up scoring better (Standardized Tests) when it came to English.

Either way I have no real focus solely in the sciences, they interest me greatly but then so does art/design.

Zombicide

01-05-2009, 08:27 PM

Always loved science and technology, I wasn't much interested in anything else as a kid, during which time I practically demanded science books and encyclopedias from my parents just to read about such things. My favorite classes were always the science classes, science classes being the ones my teachers praised my knowledge in. Seeing my As for physics class was fun, the feeling I had for physics was the closest thing I could come to spirituality, well that and being in love with girls did.

Math, oh what fun it was to have big buff students kindly. . . asking. . . me to do their assignments for them, not to mention the cool types who (successfully) tried to charm me into doing their math assignments for them, resulting in me being chums with some of them. . .even though I kind of hated them. I don't understand my relationship with math, I certainly believe that I suck at math (especially now) and I do but some people, including a math teacher gossiped that I had the most potential out of any of the other students, not necessarily to me so much as to other students and to staff and such, maybe it's because I'd often calculate things faster than the math teachers I guess.

Meh, I don't really think that much about math, it's not like some spectacular character thingy, I mean chimps and Rain Man are better at math than humans, so it's not like it should be any hallmark of intelligence but some people think of it that way.

redbaren

01-05-2009, 08:31 PM

I love Algebra and Chemistry for some reason so i guess it can be just a personnel like or dislike of a subject not really the personality.

une fille

01-05-2009, 09:23 PM

Right now, I gravitate towards subjects that require critical thinking and logic, but don't make me rely on my shaky upper-level math skills. Think social sciences, philosophy, chemistry, biology.. But a class on upper-level physics or something of that nature would rape my GPA, most likely. I went to a poorly funded public school in south Texas for K-12 (I'm now in my first year out of high school, though I'm a sophomore by credit hours), so my mathematical knowledge has been developed to a mid-B level in Calculus thus far.

Personally, I've found that a lot of INTJ's are too intuitive to enjoy fields in science and math, because it requires so many concrete steps. Writing out my findings according to the scientific method/this&that throws me off my train of thought. I suppose a lot of alone time with the material wouldn't be so bad though.

Olympics2010

01-05-2009, 11:21 PM

The fact that you soon realized that school, grades, and all that, is just part of a "social ladder", and so you left it behind, even though you are very mathematically, and scientifically inclined naturally, is something quite wise, and on the right path. I myself didn't realize this until my later post-secondary years. I myself happen to think that it should be necessary for INTJs to be introduced to their subject areas in the Sciences, or any other theoretical subject in school, because hopefully there they will get to hear, and to practice their language well, since oftentimes the world will not be able to relate to the INTJ. A lot of this help can also be provided at home, by the parents, if they are also INTJ. I think that it may be a worry if the INTJ never has a chance to meet other INTJs, and to start to learn, and practice their own language among others. The INTJ needs to do this, and they cannot do this usually unless they see it in others too. Once the INTJ has recognized this language as their own, then I think that it's preferable for the INTJ to do things that are not necessarily school-related, because for INTJs, "life is with people", and they can really thrive, and be happy, doing things using their Scientific Knowledge outside of school related areas. After all, it's the inherent knowledge within a person that makes the discipline of Science in school, not the other way around.

But yes, I would say that because you are able to really see yourself outside of the social perscriptions that most people cannot see themselves apart from, at least not to the extent that they define themselves so well independently of these social norms that they are able to leave behind those social roles, and because you spend a lot of time theorizing about infinite knowledge, and life - I would say that there are high chances of you being an INTJ. It may harder for INTJs to really come to terms themselves that they are INTJs, and not some other personality type. Since INTJs are so theoretically inclined, I think they have the power of nudging their results, until they decide just using their own theoretical abilities, that, yes, they are INTJs. I guess I'm saying that an INTJ needs to take the personality theory, and then apply it to themselves, and then see if it fits them, using their own judgement, instead of just letting the theory do it for them -'cause INTJs tend to be natural theory builders themselves. I'm like a theory incarnated, and this, itself, might be the very thing that blocks me from actually seeing the truth about myself in the description of an INTJ personality, until I recognize it in myself first, using my own inherent knowledge. Just some thoughts.

RoseRock

01-05-2009, 11:39 PM

I hated math....was horrible at it. Still am actually. Really loved science though and am kind of sad I didn't get into it past biology when I was in school.

Monte314

01-06-2009, 05:03 AM

I think most INTJ's would love math (whether good at it or not) were they introduced to it properly.

Pandemonium

01-06-2009, 05:52 AM

I find maths to be a tool which enables me to solve problems. Enhancing this tool is paramount.

If any topic is interesting enough I will learn about it. For example I like learning about History, Psychology, Sociology, Politics, Education, Literature and Science (All fields bar geology).

Wapiti

01-06-2009, 07:31 AM

I think most INTJ's would love math (whether good at it or not) were they introduced to it properly.

Maybe some just had a bad first experience with it?

Monte314

01-06-2009, 07:37 AM

Maybe some just had a bad first experience with it?

Yes. But even worse is when some bright, mathematically oriented kid is forced to sit through year after year of classes way below their level with kids who aren't mathematically oriented, and who hate people who are.

dalidaisy

01-06-2009, 07:40 AM

I took Algebra II 3 times. The final time, I took that whole "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally" thing seriously and wound up with a 4.0 GPA. Sometimes it just takes the right mindset for me. Unfortunately, my attitude about math is ambivalent at best...

rara avis

01-06-2009, 07:49 AM

I think most INTJ's would love math (whether good at it or not) were they introduced to it properly.

I wish I knew what my problem was - I'm certainly not stupid overall, and my test scores beginning early on were very, very good in everything except math- the sole subject in which I not only didn't excel (knowledge-wise, anyway), but in which I seemed to be working at a nearly retarded level... I like science, I like languages, and music theory blew my mind, what's the big deal with mathematics?

I think if it had been English where I was suffering so badly, they would've been looking into learning disabilities, and how to work the problem. But there doesn't seem to be much flexibility applied to the way math is taught. It's like they expect a large number of people to just not get it, as if it's somehow expected and acceptable to be illiterate in mathematics.

I've spent a lot of my life being embarrassed over my math skills, my inability to hold numbers still in my head - which only makes the fear of it worse. :sulk:

ClydeB

01-06-2009, 07:52 AM

I like math somewhat. I got to calculus 1 in school, didn't see any real world applications that related to me, so I stopped taking any higher math classes. Science as a general field of study? Yes. I read voraciously about any and all things science that interests me. No formalized school though. Not since my "college" days.

eastman

01-06-2009, 08:01 AM

Do ALL INTJ's get into things like math and science?

The simple answer is no.

It's an absurd stereotype that the INTJ or INTP should only be involved in STEM(Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math) jobs. Unfortunately, all the books on the mbti are guilty of this. No book can ever tell you what field you should major in or what job you should acquire. You can use them for guidance, but they can never be a substitute for worldly experience. Despite what everyone tells you, not everybody needs to be involved in math or science.

floramacivor

01-06-2009, 08:06 AM

I think most INTJ's would love math (whether good at it or not) were they introduced to it properly.

I feel like, if I just put my mind to it, I could love math.

In the meantime, I really enjoy educational theory. As a homeschooler, I'm less interested in the practical application of "which grammar program should I use" or "what should I use to teach math" end of it, and fascinated by the various theories about how the mind learns.

As an iNtj, should we be intuitive about things like poetry? Why, then, does poetry frustrate me? I feel like the meaning is just beyond reach, but yet escapes me.

thod

01-06-2009, 08:35 AM

I wouldn't say those 2 subjects are specific. I would say phrase its as complex deterministic systems. Any such system will exert a magnetic pull as the INT mind sees the cause and effect relationships and seeks to understand the mechanism. This could be law or economics for example. Its also why people oriented tasks are rejected, the results do not depend on the inputs.

Valiyn

01-06-2009, 08:49 AM

thod is right.

Take me for example. I'm an artist. I do conceptual art for games and film (props mostly, followed by environments). No math or science in the traditional sense involved what so ever. High school math was pretty much a waste of my time just looking at my career. The INTJ love for those things is just backwards for this field. Instead of taking something and seeing how it works, I design how it works to get a functional artistic design. It's just flipped around. So no, not all INTJs get into stuff like math and science, but the same concepts that make those interesting for the majority of us are still applied on a regular basis for the rest of us.

vertex

01-06-2009, 08:50 AM

No, I learn what I need to accomplish goals.

seconded

Kisai

01-06-2009, 09:44 AM

I love Applied Mathematics and Science. I'm not really interested in the purely theoretical stuff. I'd rather solve real world problems that debilitate with a peer group that gets smaller as you grow smarter.

I would love to have access to infinite knowledge, but if I spent all my time putting knowledge into my head, I'd never actually get to do anything.

ZAK

01-06-2009, 09:51 AM

I 'd guess we do like math but not necessarily as a school subject or course- it's more the way our mind works, thod and valiyn already explained it better.
I liked math and science and still do, but i studied languages and archeology- go figure, lol!

eastman

01-06-2009, 10:18 AM

As an iNtj, should we be intuitive about things like poetry?

The Intuitive function does not guaranteed mastery of certain skills. Your environment has a great deal of effect on your self development. The belief that the INTJ is a "systematic thinker" does not only apply to math and science. The INTJ writer could create an system of how to write books or columns. You can paint in a systematic yet creative way. Or as a gamer, you can create a plan or system in winning boss fights. Systematic thinking is an approach to life instead of a tool for abstract thinking.

Qoheleth

01-06-2009, 10:20 AM

Nope I drifted away as well I am more into the theories, concepts, theology and poetry (the finer things in life). But if I have to study math (which is a real possiblity right now) then I can excell 'cause come on I'm an INTJ baby I can do anything :)

blatant

01-06-2009, 11:50 AM

I was good at both, but realized that I wanted money for less work, so I opted to not pursue a science/math career.

lamplighter

01-06-2009, 11:51 AM

My forte in school was Art, Biology, History, and Geometry. I was the only kid in any of my math classes that could do long division in their head, but I dislike math in general really even though most of it is pretty easy for me. I made A's with occasional B's in Geometry because I enjoyed it, but Algebra 1 I failed until I took it a second time as a night class to graduate high school, I just hated the teacher is all. I do like science in general but I mostly like biology and tech. In school I also did really well in my Automotive Repair class. However I hated writing things out by hand, and I did really poorly in any class that was merely a bunch of mindless copying out of books, due to the fact like others I saw grades as a social thing instead of a degree in which to measure intelligence. Go public schooling!

Storm

01-06-2009, 04:51 PM

I loved math and science as a child, but the higher levels I found extremely dull despite being good at it. Too much detail, not enough practical application. Perhaps if upper level classes spent more time explaining how the material could be applied I would have kept with it. But my INTJ brother loves the sciences, so it just depends on the person.

I majored in economics, the perfect balance of theory and application. Almost went to grad school for it, but the level of math required + the 5 years + low job prospects changed my mind. Ended up going to law school, again, wonderful balance of theory and application.

BostonIan

01-06-2009, 06:27 PM

Formulaic math always gave me a headache. I understood the processes on how to solve problems, but I never cared about the details. In math, the details are everything. Science is similar; I get interested in big idea about things, but only learn the details if I stay in the neighborhood long enough. If you give me the details before the big picture, I don't care.

floramacivor

01-06-2009, 08:55 PM

The Intuitive function does not guaranteed mastery of certain skills. Your environment has a great deal of effect on your self development. The belief that the INTJ is a "systematic thinker" does not only apply to math and science. . . Systematic thinking is an approach to life instead of a tool for abstract thinking.

Systematic thinking might be an approach to life - but isn't that different than being intuitive? Isn't intuition something abstract, and shouldn't a tendency to be intuitive help in abstract things like poetry? Or am I misunderstanding what intuitive is in the INTJ make-up?

AliTree

01-06-2009, 09:02 PM

Hinun

01-07-2009, 02:00 AM

nah, i'm not a fan of math. i mean, i'm pretty good at it, but i couldn't care less. i'm into psych stuff. and i know there is no such thing as infinite knowledge. i am very interested in many things and like to always learn something new, though.

hehehe, how do you know their is not infinite knowledge?

I think large amount of INTJ's are attracted to math and science b/c they jive with our mental type... also the notion that one can be good at "science" and not math is like saying you're good at english, but don't know grammar, math is the purest form of science, it is made to represent our world... also very weird theoretical ideas... i won't go into that... lol, I am an engineering major and at the core of all my chemistry and physics, is math...obviously things are more complex than is, but the point is math and science go together, besides the really easy conceptual stuff... most of the time the conceptual stuff is easy... O-o.

Anreader

01-07-2009, 05:26 AM

Well i took honors math in high school and i finished with a low b in alg.1 and a c in alg. II but i earned 99 in Geometry with 100 as my first semester grade. Of course there was no homework in that class though.

I was good at algebra i just wasn't interested in all the layers of crap. I skipped steps and combined steps and the teachers wanted you to "show your work." Made me crazy.

Doublefrost

01-07-2009, 03:03 PM

I have more personal interest in military tactics/strategy than math/science.

Jgib5328

01-08-2009, 03:49 PM

Math is alright, it's certainly less interesting than other subjects. I think a left-brained INTJ would highly likely to like math & science.

Gamgee

01-08-2009, 05:07 PM

I am not very good at math. I CAN be good at math when I have something that needs it. However for me to go out of my way into a career with heavy math is quite insane in my eyes. While I can be be good at math it takes me some time to work through problems and I won't win any speed contests.

I am better at Psychology. Actually I am really good at it and am planning on majoring in it after I am done this college program. My teachers says I have a natural talent for it. What she means by this I have no idea. Maybe it comes with having a good memory for the terms combined with a logical mind and just enough of an Fe for me to connect with others and get into their heads. ;) Not to mention people are so much more interesting than math problems. Math stays static and constant, but people are always changing. It's more of a challenge in other words and you get good with screwing with people, but that's just a bonus.

AceBrown

01-09-2009, 01:30 PM

I've always been great at Math and Science. I liked the idea of concepts/formulas used to solve problems. But, I did like learning about history and different art forms.

aspen

01-09-2009, 02:03 PM

I really enjoy Analatics, Computers, Physics... Science and Technology.

With that said, I also really enjoy writing poetry or novels along side lengthy physics and engineering play-work.

childofprodigy

01-09-2009, 02:11 PM

I'm into Economics but decided to major in Mathematical Economics due to pragmatism, not necessarily because I like math (It's more marketable than just plain Econ major). In fact, I kinda suck at my math courses (I used to be good at it when I was little) although I appreciate how much my math courses can be applied to real life phenomenons. I used to like Computer Science, and I learned programming at a very young age. But I soon lost interest in it, and computer science merely bores me now. I am actually more of a philosophical person, although again as I said, my primary interest is Economics. I'm also fairly interested in Political Science and Psychology.

I never like other sciences such as Chemistry, Physics, or Biology, although a rudimentary knowledge of them is quite useful and thus I won't get bored to death taking basic courses on them.

sardon

01-09-2009, 08:23 PM

I am actually more of a philosophical person, although again as I said, my primary interest is Economics. I'm also fairly interested in Political Science and Psychology.

Same here. I do like a wide variety of subjects though. My personal reading is quite wide.

demaugustus

01-09-2009, 08:39 PM

I just finished a degree in Anthropology at an above average university. Although I learned a lot I'd have to say that I'm sick of science and math, it's just too limiting. Sitting around observing primates and keeping track of statistics bored me out of my mind. My father was a top astrophysicist, so I suppose I got my fair share of science growing up. I like to do whatever the hell I want. I'm actually preparing right now to get into a creative writing graduate school because, at least with creative writing, I can create my own worlds, with their own rules. I actually have a small following right now in regards to the stories I'm publishing. It feels neat to feel like an author when people you don't even know come up to you and tell you that they enjoy your stories. Now if I could only make some cash…

ggwbach

01-10-2009, 12:38 AM

nice to hear these points of view.

I started off quite enamored with maths / science, and spent a couple of years at uni studying it. Got grounded in chemistry, phystics, electronics, etc. Pretty broad base. Then I realised it was just a tool. What I really wanted was _answers_.

so I got sidetracked in the arts. History, literature, philosophy, music, etc. Been trapped there ever since :)

the INTJ mastermind constantly looks for means and an ends.

WaeV

01-10-2009, 07:32 AM

Math and science are my best two topics, and I intend to get my degree in Computer Science.

Trin

01-10-2009, 07:55 AM

hehehe, how do you know their is not infinite knowledge?

the notion that one can be good at "science" and not math is like saying you're good at english, but don't know grammar

I respectfully disagree with what I think you're saying, Hinun. I was a zoology and English major in college and I loved the biological and life sciences but hated chem and physics, which I consider the more math-oriented sciences. Math was my worst subject: with some teachers I did great, and with others I just didn't get it. So I think there's definitely room within the sciences for success even if you don't have a math brain.

Although, in words rather than (what I believe to be your) intended meaning, you may be on to something: I think you can be a good creative writer without having a handle on grammar. I see that sometimes in my job as an editor--unless it's just laziness.

Nyctalop

01-10-2009, 05:55 PM

I got bored of math during high-school when its practicality became more and more questionable. I still don't understand the reason for the existence of the more complex forms of mathematics. At least the reasons why they should be taught in schools and universities. I'd prefer much more applied science which is a lot more easier to understand and more motivating to learn, as oppose to abstract knowledge, albeit logical one.

I can say that today I'm much more inclined to writing and reading, than anything related to math. At least anything past a certain level. I did some math in college and scored much better than I expected but didn't really enjoy it.

ArkansasFan

01-11-2009, 10:39 AM

I was told I was good at math and science when I was young, but as I got older I gravitated away from it. In fact, during high school I stopped caring about grades all together, feeling that it was all part of this social latter that I wanted no part of. I also tend to test all sorts of types, oddly enough, and it is quite difficult to pick out which one fits me. I've tested as ISTJ a couple of months ago but I hate tradition and orders and rules, I've tested ISFJ but that was when I was having severe anxiety, and I've tested INFJ. I'm going to be taking a look at the forum in here on other tests, see what happen's tonight.

Do all INTJ's care about infinite knowledge, has any INTJ started theorizing on life that they've spent a lot of time wandering?

I never cared for math. In sixth grade I found myself having trouble with long division and from there math grades went downhill with each passing year. From there on out I quit trying at math but continued to do well at everything else. The natural science (biology, earth science, etc) were fun, but I've never cared for the numbers classes like chemistry, which I had to teach once, and physics.

playthestatic

01-11-2009, 10:47 AM

The science teachers loved me in secondary school and pre-university, because I got consistent good grades and wasn't disruptive. I don't suppose I was any kind of outstanding, I just provided a nice contrast to the hardcore delinquents (there were quite a number in my school). I suppose I did find the sciences genuinely interesting - I took biology and chemistry, and I had a greater preference for biology.

My preference for biology can probably be explained by the fact that I'm not very mathematically-inclined. I have never disliked a subject as consistently as I have maths. My parents have told me that I loved this set of educational set of posters they got me - with pictures of birds, anatomy, etc. when I was a toddler, but when they got out the posters with the dots and numbers, I started crying! I'm not awful at it, I got decent grades for it, but only with effort, unlike with other subjects like history and English. My SAT score was also rather telling - I scored significantly lower for math than for the other two components, critical reading and writing. This may be a case of disliking a subject and thus not doing well in it, or the other way around, I've never managed to discern. Maybe it's because I can't see maths being as applicable to my life as other subjects which I've found interesting - linguistics and history, in particular.

Maschine Kat

01-11-2009, 01:53 PM

I think most INTJ's would love math (whether good at it or not) were they introduced to it properly.

My SO (who is currently finishing his M.Ed. in Math) says this all the time. Further, he extends it to EVERYONE, not just INTJ's. I'm not so sure about the second bit, but I suspect he is probably right about INTJ's. I know I started off thinking Math was really exciting and then got talked into thinking it was boring and scary by various and sundry people in my life. It is pretty hard to overcome the "Math Trauma" that girls educated in the 70's and 80's suffer from.

Science, though...how the heck could anyone NOT be interested in Science?? :huh:

azwildcat2001

01-12-2009, 06:50 PM

As a child and teen, I loved anything having to do with science. I even got a Chemistry education degree and taught for six years. Teaching math and science was not a good match for me, I don't know if it was a INTJ thing or a me thing.

I increasingly felt that I wanted to explore my other passion deepening my Christian faith and becoming a minister. So I went to seminary. It is a better fit then my Chemistry studies ever were. There is more theorhetical and critical thinking, which I love. And lots of research which I also enjoy.

As for math, I always considered it to be necessary evil, to continue my science studies, so I made it through three semesters of calculus in college.

dijitalrayne

01-12-2009, 08:14 PM

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised about the various results of this thread. I've been huge into math/science/technology for as long as I can remember, and am pursuing a career in physics.

eastman

01-13-2009, 07:10 AM

I blame this on the career books that used the mbti personality type. These books all make the ridiculous assumption that an INTJ can only pursue technical careers. It as if all politicians are P types, or all businessman are J types. The books completely ignores reality.

brainysmurf

01-13-2009, 08:53 AM

I loved math at high school and college and was also very much into science. Solving math problems was one of my favorite hobbies!

Beckatron

01-13-2009, 10:35 AM

My secondary school maths teacher was awful. I was in the top class out of 8 and even though i was good at math, i was probebly towards the lower standard of the group. My maths teacher favourited the masterminds and us B students hardly received any help, leaving us slightly bitter I suppose.. It's only recently that I've dug out the old text books and developed fondness for the subject again. I always loved the sciences (especially physics and biology)

In terms of associating INTJs with careers in maths and the sciences... I'm a CGI animation student, which requires a good understanding in anatomical structure, maths and scripting... but creativity is also very useful in terms of designing characters and story boarding. So I have a nice balance between rational thinking and creativity in my chosen career path.

Although the MBTI profiles generalise, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of us INTJs are the same. As a J type, I've always liked pigeon holing people and stereotyping (even when analysing myself!) because it helps me understand the way that things work - I hate not having closure.

I read somewhere that INTJs, more than any other type, are more susceptable to persuing what they are expected to persue - In terms of interests, career paths and also personality traits. Maybe this has an influence on the large number of INTJs who go down the maths and science routes...

Kisai

01-13-2009, 10:50 AM

I got bored of math during high-school when its practicality became more and more questionable. I still don't understand the reason for the existence of the more complex forms of mathematics. At least the reasons why they should be taught in schools and universities. I'd prefer much more applied science which is a lot more easier to understand and more motivating to learn, as oppose to abstract knowledge, albeit logical one.

Mathematics -> Science -> Engineering -> Robot armies with friggin' lasers!

einnelsate

01-14-2009, 12:11 AM

For me, I absolutely love math and science (ESPECIALLY physics).

I aspire to be a neurosurgeon, so there are people who tell me that studying physics isn't very important. But physics is still a big thing for me, basically because of how intricate and beautiful the laws governing our world are.

eastman

01-14-2009, 06:35 AM

Not once did I ever felt the need to get involved in math in science. This applies to both high school and college. In fact, all my friends come from the "soft sciences" like political science and sociology. It's not really true that your likely to find an INTJ in every STEM job.

Cairech

01-14-2009, 09:38 AM

I hated math from an early age and struggle with it to this day. I agree with Monte; if I'd had a better introduction, and possibly some good tutors, I'd probably have done much better.

NT's tend to dislike school, especially grade school (k-12). Except when we're either very motivated in a subject, find an exceptional teacher, or plan to use our grades in a bid to take over the world.

And I think that INTJ's can theorize on ANYTHING, especially if there's nothing else to do. Eventually, though, we'll want to take action on theories. Even if it's just to argue with someone about them.

Pika

01-14-2009, 03:04 PM

I was lousy in math in high school. In fact, I was a lousy student in high school. After graduation in the 50's, I went to work as a mechanic and found that I was quite good at it but not particularly challenged.

After a stint in the Army, I went back to school as a geology major. Took two years of math including differential equations and a lot of physics and chemistry. I struggled with the math but once I learned it, it stuck; same with the hard sciences.

I continued on to graduate school and completed a hard science PhD. then went on to build a career as a university scientist, teacher and finally administrator.

Since I retired, I have lost some of my interest in science, all my interest in administration and now study philosophy and history with relish. Most of my fellow scientists behaved as INTJ's or INTP's; I think these types tend to be drawn to science.