Your Sexuality?

[rocksteady]

Just curious as to the makeup of our population...completely anonymous

I've always found sexuality interesting, and like to view it from an analytical perspective. It is quite ridiculous though to make broad judgments about a person based on sexuality alone.

[OneBadMother]

My track record of attraction is about five males, two females, so that leans me towards the attracted to male side. I do find that I'm basically attracted to female personalities rather than physical attraction, so I'm not really sure what that means. If we went on consistent physical attraction then it simmers down to two males, one of whom I became almost completely unattracted to when I found significant enough flaws in his personality.

[Henry]

Straight. Do have a...variety of exotic interests and experiences but all with females.

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

[mielikki]

Hetero.
Born that way, I assume. I don't subscribe to the theory that your sexual preference is learned behaviour.

[Wildflower]

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

I see or hear men say this often enough that I am curious why a heterosexual man would even expect to understand a heterosexual woman's view of the male body or its attraction?

I mean to me, I think woman's body...yawn...but I understand that men see something extra special that I don't.

[Epicurus]

Hetrosexual to insanity, if I weren't so lame I would want to look more like a woman but only the make-up part, manly clothes and normal manly way of speaking and acting. I really don't see any attracting in men but I might see what can be so.

[phoenix]

Straight. Do have a...variety of exotic interests and experiences but all with females.

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.


I'm with you, Henry. Women are gentle, easy on the eyes, comforting, comfortable. Men, well...there's just no attraction. And the concept of sex with them is unpleasant at best.

Exotic interests....yep, I have those too.

[Hdier]

Women are gentle, easy on the eyes, comforting, comfortable.

Poison in a pretty bottle.

[rocksteady]

Hetero.
Born that way, I assume. I don't subscribe to the theory that your sexual preference is learned behaviour.

I believe sexual preferences can be tailored as you age, but yes, I'm sure most gays are born with some genetic predisposition towards homosexuality, but this means most of us probably carry the gene, is just not totally active.

Because you know what they say, no one is 100% straight!

[Hdier]

I think that it's a combination of nature and nurture, especially the parent's (or guardian; or whatever) prejudice, or lack thereof, of sexual orientation. However, I believe that this effect is minimal, and people are predispositioned to have a specific orientation, but life events can effect what you end up 'being'.

Also, I think of it more as a scale than 3 points (gay, bi straight)

[rwyatt365]

Exclusively hetero, always have been. I love the form of the female body, as other posters have mentioned;
Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

I'm with you, Henry. Women are gentle, easy on the eyes, comforting, comfortable. Men, well...there's just no attraction. And the concept of sex with them is unpleasant at best.

To Wildflower's point;
I see or hear men say this often enough that I am curious why a heterosexual man would even expect to understand a heterosexual woman's view of the male body or its attraction?

I mean to me, I think woman's body...yawn...but I understand that men see something extra special that I don't.
Just on the basis of aesthetics, the female form is (generally) fluid and made of soft curves and gentle gradients. Whereas the male form is (generally) angular and abrupt, made of edges and angles.

Women are Ferrari's, men are Hummers. Women are fuzzy and squishy, men are stubbly and hard.

I just had this absurd vision that I'd like to share; if I was going to fall off a building into a pile of people, I would rather land in a pile of women than a pile of men. In a pile of women, you would land softly and be able to jump right up and do it again. In a pile of men, you'd probably have to go to the hospital!

Yes, I'm weird.

[Oversphere]

I just had this absurd vision that I'd like to share; if I was going to fall off a building into a pile of people, I would rather land in a pile of women than a pile of men. In a pile of women, you would land softly and be able to jump right up and do it again. In a pile of men, you'd probably have to go to the hospital!

Yes, I'm weird.

Possible injuries aside, I'd just like to fall into a pile of women.

This discussion reminds me of a funny Seinfeld quote. Elaine was explaining why she doesn't find the male body particularly attractive. She said, "The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian. It's for gettin' around. It's like a Jeep."

[OneBadMother]

Straight. Do have a...variety of exotic interests and experiences but all with females.

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

I'll admit that the female figure = more aesthetically pleasing in general, but male bodies can have an interesting structure to them as well. It is like a sort of machine, but the kind where you can see how it works (not so much subcutaneous fat on top of the musculature). I will say that for me, a mix of prototypically masculine and feminine traits in the male face is more attractive than purely masculine facial features.

[banzai]

I think a lot of men are too insecure to admit that they can see some guys as good looking.

For me, I can identify a good looking guy... at least, in my opinion, which is based heavily in my competitive assessment. If I see a guy that is equal or better than myself in height, muscle, or another masculine appearance, it catches my eye. However, past my notice it ends there. Unsurprisingly, I can point out guys that I think must be attractive to females to my female acquaintances and it's not uncommon for them to disagree, instead pointing out guys who I wouldn't have guessed because I don't consider them physically threatening...

"That hippie-looking guy over there with the long hair? You're kidding..."
"He's so cute!"

On the other hand, a woman... completely different. Certain things I like, such as good child-bearing hips, flicks a switch in my head, makes me perk up, and many times gets my imagination running. Hhhhhhrrmmm... *whimper* :lovestruck:

[rocksteady]

I think a lot of men are too insecure to admit that they can see some guys as good looking.

For me, I can identify a good looking guy... at least, in my opinion, which is based heavily in my competitive assessment. If I see a guy that is equal or better than myself in height, muscle, or another masculine appearance, it catches my eye. However, past my notice it ends there. Unsurprisingly, I can point out guys that I think must be attractive to females to my female acquaintances and it's not uncommon for them to disagree, instead pointing out guys who I wouldn't have guessed because I don't consider them physically threatening...

"That hippie-looking guy over there with the long hair? You're kidding..."
"He's so cute!"

On the other hand, a woman... completely different. Certain things I like, such as good child-bearing hips, flicks a switch in my head, makes me perk up, and many times gets my imagination running. Hhhhhhrrmmm... *whimper* :lovestruck:

ditto

[Lucid]

if I was going to fall off a building into a pile of people, I would rather land in a pile of women than a pile of men. In a pile of women, you would land softly and be able to jump right up and do it again. In a pile of men, you'd probably have to go to the hospital!

Possible injuries aside, I'd just like to fall into a pile of women.

I laughed. I'm still chuckling.

I've always been heterosexual. The idea of sex with other women just seems kind of unpleasant to me and ultimately unfulfilling, since they lack what is (to me) a very important piece of equipment.

A also have a variety of exotic interests (maybe someone should do a poll about INTJs and exotic sexual interests), but I can't see how a person could find the female body more attractive than the male body. Males are so streamlined and compact. Also, while softness is attractive for heterosexual males, edges and angles (and stubble) are attractive for heterosexual females.

[Figmentum]

wow... Before I read this, I got some fo your genders confused...

[rocksteady]

wow... Before I read this, I got some fo your genders confused...

Yes, I find it quite difficult to make an assumptions about any of the members here based on their posts. We are are so rational and don't display typical emotional signs that would indicate gender or socio-economic standing. Quite refreshing really!

[phoenix]

I laughed. I'm still chuckling.

I've always been heterosexual. The idea of sex with other women just seems kind of unpleasant to me and ultimately unfulfilling, since they lack what is (to me) a very important piece of equipment.

A also have a variety of exotic interests (maybe someone should do a poll about INTJs and exotic sexual interests), but I can't see how a person could find the female body more attractive than the male body. Males are so streamlined and compact. Also, while softness is attractive for heterosexual males, edges and angles (and stubble) are attractive for heterosexual females.

Stubble...ewww!

As far as exotic interests go, my opinion (and I've been thinking about this for a while) is that it goes along with the INTJ need for extremes in order to derive meaningful sensory input. There was a thread a while back about how we INTJs live so far inside our heads, that it takes something significant to pull us out of ourselves.

Sex is like that for me. Normal, 'vanilla' sex is boring. I find myself thinking about work, or laundry, or that book I'm in the middle of....and so sex becomes an act of rote memory, no pleasure derived, often an annoyance because I have better things to do with my time.

In order to pull my mind away from the other stuff I find interesting, there has to be something in the sex that interests me more. Something exciting, challenging, unique. I won't go into what we do, but suffice to say it takes all my focus and then some. Luckily I have found someone who is willing to go *there* with me.

[Lucid]

Sex is like that for me. Normal, 'vanilla' sex is boring. I find myself thinking about work, or laundry, or that book I'm in the middle of....and so sex becomes an act of rote memory, no pleasure derived, often an annoyance because I have better things to do with my time.

I think it's hard to have bad sex. It's like pizza, even when it's bad it's still pretty good. But I know exactly what you mean about there having to be something in the sex that's more interesting and vanilla sex being somewhat boring.

wow... Before I read this, I got some fo your genders confused...

You know, I had the same experience when I read the "pictures of you" thread. And a bit more, since a lot of people on here don't look the least like their avatars or posts would lead you to believe. Part of the fun!

[niffer]

Heterosexual. I have considered regarding myself as bisexual since I think the female body is beautiful and would probably enjoy "having sex" with another female, but I don't because I would never be able to become romantically attracted or attached to them in the same way as I can with males.

[TruorTupnm]

Yay! A poll in which I am not one of the options! I am asexual. No creepy compulsions struck me when I reached adolescence. Girls still had cooties. But, once all of my buddies seemed to lose the ability to think of anything but sex, I started making friends with more females. They made way more sense, at the time. I never have to deal with forcing myself to be sociable merely to satisfy physical desires (except for dealing with some waiter long enough to get some food, I guess). I never have to think up some lie on why I shouldn't be around to talk to her, once my needs have been met. :rolleyes: But then, some people think that I could be a late bloomer. :huh:

[rocksteady]

Heterosexual. I have considered regarding myself as bisexual since I think the female body is beautiful and would probably enjoy "having sex" with another female, but I don't because I would never be able to become romantically attracted or attached to them in the same way as I can with males.


I have considered this same thing from time to time, so I put undecided, lol

rocksteady added, 2 Minutes and 51 Seconds later...

Yay! A poll in which I am not one of the options! I am asexual. No creepy compulsions struck me when I reached adolescence. Girls still had cooties. But, once all of my buddies seemed to lose the ability to think of anything but sex, I started making friends with more females. They made way more sense, at the time. I never have to deal with forcing myself to be sociable merely to satisfy physical desires (except for dealing with some waiter long enough to get some food, I guess). I never have to think up some lie on why I shouldn't be around to talk to her, once my needs have been met. :rolleyes: But then, some people think that I could be a late bloomer. :huh:

I can relate, my view of sex and relationships as something like that of a hobby, not bad thing to have, but probably unnecessary.

[Alpha Prime]

I prefer bisexual women.

[WavesSootheMe]

In order to pull my mind away from the other stuff I find interesting, there has to be something in the sex that interests me more. Something exciting, challenging, unique.

Agreed. That goes for just about everything in my life, sex is not exempt. I just happen to find this with men.

I do find that five o'clock shadow incredibly sexy right up until the point of it touching me. Sandpaper on my skin is not pleasant.

I can appreciate a woman's beauty, but more in the sense that I can find beauty in nature and art. I don't feel any sexual attraction to it.

[INTJoe]

How is one "undecided"?

I don't get it.

[BlackHawk]

I think it's something along the lines of "mixed feelings but not cleany hetero-, bi-, or homo-"
I'm not sure, though . . . .

[wolf]

I have ultra-low attraction, but I'd say hetero. Females are more aesthetically-pleasing as a rule, and the idea of male-male homosexual activity is quite distasteful. My attraction to females and sexual drive is so low in comparison to other males that I probably appear asexual in comparison. Oddly, female-female activity doesn't bother me (more confuses me as I can't see much point); in fact the concept slightly arouses me.

[INTJoe]

female-female activity doesn't bother me in fact the concept slightly arouses me.


hahaah, you sound like the previous poster who said his preference is bisexual women.

[wolf]

hahaah, you sound like the previous poster who said his preference is bisexual women.
Earlier in the thread we heard from a female that doesn't find the female body attractive. I am somewhat surprised by this, but it makes sense that it would be similar to males.

I suppose I could go for two or three bisexual females in a committed relationship - that way I wouldn't be the sole provider (for that matter, I might duck out of it altogether aside from reproduction) of safe sexual activity while reaping the rewards of a larger group (shared responsibilities, greater overall income, lower per-person costs, etc). I am also surprised that the feminism movements didn't result in this type of family unit.

[wwise]

I would be curious to know how many INTJ women are homosexual? The information that I've read online says that they must be more in touch with their masculine side and tend to go against the flow...

[WavesSootheMe]

I would be curious to know how many INTJ women are homosexual? The information that I've read online says that they must be more in touch with their masculine side and tend to go against the flow...

This is dependent on what they define as masculine. I think seeing us as more masculine has a lot to do with how we use rational thought over subjective experience on top of being introverted and thus not as overtly social as the stereotype. This does not make us men! There are several other aspects of the male stereotype that do not apply. I may not be "girly" but I am still definitely a girl. I'm trying to think of more specific examples, but perhaps it would be best to respond to questions from others if more clarity is needed. I don't personally see how my sexual preference would be influenced by my INTJ temperaments. There's definitely at least more to the picture. The tendency to "go against the flow" probably just make it easier to accept our preference despite how others may view it. I think this tendency is more due to looking at things critically and making sense of them for ourselves rather than just doing something because everyone else is doing it. In the end, there's still the chance that we may find the norm makes sense for us.

[Alpha Prime]

hahaah, you sound like the previous poster who said his preference is bisexual women.

Oddly, women or less polarized than men when it comes to sexual preference. I read an article about it, but I cannot provide you, with a link.

Now, somebody introduce me to some hot bisexual women!

[Hdier]

How is one "undecided"?

I don't get it.

Undecided means that you are not sure of your sexual orientation. While some people instinctively know what their orientation is, others need time. For example, I didn't just go 'oh, I'm attracted to men, I must be gay'. I had to sift through feelings and a bunch of other stuff, and wasn't totally sure that I was gay until a year after I first started wondering I was gay. If I had voted half a year ago, I would have voted 'undecided'.

Hope that helps, if it doesn't tell me and I'll try harder.

[enteka]

I don't personally see how my sexual preference would be influenced by my INTJ temperaments. There's definitely at least more to the picture. The tendency to "go against the flow" probably just make it easier to accept our preference despite how others may view it. I think this tendency is more due to looking at things critically and making sense of them for ourselves rather than just doing something because everyone else is doing it. In the end, there's still the chance that we may find the norm makes sense for us.

I perfectly agree. There is way more in sexuality than personnality, I don't see how it could influence it more than just the fact than we think way more about it than a lot's of people do, and that in this dimension of life, thinking is perhaps innapropriate.

[Hdier]

Agreed. The statistics also are similar to what I'd expect to find in the general populace, which only backs this point up.

[MichaelH]

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

As a gay man, I have the opposite opinion. Give me a burly powerlifter with facial hair any day. There's plenty to look at - curves and bulges _everywhere_ - and strength to contend with. I'll leave out the comparison with the opposite sex out of respect for the very capable women on this board.

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It may not be your "type", but there's definitely something to look at!

Beauty/studliness is in the eye of the beholder. It's good thing there are so many eyes out there!

wow... Before I read this, I got some (of) your genders confused...

Heh. I thought I was accepting of women before, but this board has forced me to ignore gender in discussions. I'm really seeing how irrelevant it is for much of this stuff. Too bad it's such a large factor in face-to-face interactions.

[Hdier]

As a gay man, I have the opposite opinion. Give me a burly powerlifter with facial hair any day. There's plenty to look at - curves and bulges _everywhere_ - and strength to contend with.

I'm gay, but I prefer more feminine men. It's odd at times, when I think about it.

[Duncan Cade]

100% hetero here.

[INTJoe]

I'm gay, but I prefer more feminine men. It's odd at times, when I think about it.


Yeah I never understood this, but I realize it's not for my business to understand.

Like I don't understand "lipstick" lesbians who like "butch" women, and I don't understand a gay guy who likes femenine dudes, but I understand why a "butch" woman would like a feminine woman (because she's butch), and I understand why a feminine gay guy would like a manly gay guy (because he's feminine).

Why don't lipsticks just like guys, instead of butch women? And why don't muscular gay guys just like women instead of feminine men? To me, it's confusing.

[Paul V]

Yeah I never understood this, but I realize it's not for my business to understand.

Like I don't understand "lipstick" lesbians who like "butch" women, and I don't understand a gay guy who likes femenine dudes, but I understand why a "butch" woman would like a feminine woman (because she's butch), and I understand why a feminine gay guy would like a manly gay guy (because he's feminine).

Why don't lipsticks just like guys, instead of butch women? And why don't muscular gay guys just like women instead of feminine men? To me, it's confusing.

The anatomy. A vital piece of it. ;) Just making a wild guess here.

Also, a femine guy does not equal a woman. You need to have an androgynous person or a hermaphrodite to make a guy look like a woman.

The same (or even more so) applies to butch women.

On topic: Straight, but I can be talked into doing anything if I'm drunk. Which is why I don't drink.

[phoenix]

Yeah I never understood this, but I realize it's not for my business to understand.

Like I don't understand "lipstick" lesbians who like "butch" women, and I don't understand a gay guy who likes femenine dudes, but I understand why a "butch" woman would like a feminine woman (because she's butch), and I understand why a feminine gay guy would like a manly gay guy (because he's feminine).

Why don't lipsticks just like guys, instead of butch women? And why don't muscular gay guys just like women instead of feminine men? To me, it's confusing.

The anatomy. A vital piece of it. ;) Just making a wild guess here.

Also, a femine guy does not equal a woman. You need to have an androgynous person or a hermaphrodite to make a guy look like a woman.

The same (or even more so) applies to butch women.

On topic: Straight, but I can be talked into doing anything if I'm drunk. Which is why I don't drink.


It's not just that, to be honest. yes, male anatomy to this gay female is...unpleasant to contemplate. But in addition, there are all the feminine behavior patterns.

No matter how "butch" a woman looks, she is still a woman, and she still behaves like a woman. If not, then she's likely transgender. I couldn't be with a transgender female, because she would, in reality, be male. And male is simply not what makes me feel comfortable.

So no, it's not simply a case of the anatomy being "right."

[INTJoe]

On topic: Straight, but I can be talked into doing anything if I'm drunk. Which is why I don't drink.


You aren't being true to yourself. :)

You might like weiner but are afraid to find out.

ZOMG DRAMABOMB!!! :)

[Wildflower]

I suppose I could go for two or three bisexual females in a committed relationship - that way I wouldn't be the sole provider (for that matter, I might duck out of it altogether aside from reproduction) of safe sexual activity while reaping the rewards of a larger group (shared responsibilities, greater overall income, lower per-person costs, etc). I am also surprised that the feminism movements didn't result in this type of family unit.

Why would feminism change women's basic sexual/romantic tastes? :huh:

[quentin]

I believe that sexual preference is hard-wired into us at an early age and there's not much you can do to change it. Attraction is not a choice. Sex and sexuality are things that we can't, at a basic level, control. I've always been straight and never had any interest or inclinations towards other men or boys. That's why I've never been insecure about my sexuality. I think that people that aren't either 100% gay or straight have a harder time dealing with their sexuality, as should be obvious.

[Hdier]

The anatomy. A vital piece of it. ;) Just making a wild guess here.

For the most part you're right, at least for me. But also, I think that it might also be because stereotypically, the man is the protector and the woman is the protected. Perhaps I am attracted to men partially because I want to protect and be protected, and that is one way of achieving that (assuming that the theory of collective consciousness is true, and mine includes that stereotipicallity; I'm not saying I think it's true, I am undecided, but I'm just hypothesizing here.

[phoenix]

I believe that sexual preference is hard-wired into us at an early age and there's not much you can do to change it. Attraction is not a choice. Sex and sexuality are things that we can't, at a basic level, control. I've always been straight and never had any interest or inclinations towards other men or boys. That's why I've never been insecure about my sexuality. I think that people that aren't either 100% gay or straight have a harder time dealing with their sexuality, as should be obvious.

I have had people tell me that being gay was my choice. And if I wanted all the rights and privileges that straight people have, I shouldn't have chosen to be gay.

My response....

"So when, exactly, did you make the decision to be straight? Did you take the time to explore the alternatives before you made your decision? How do you know you made the right choice if you haven't explored the alternatives?"

Usually that changes their opinions about whether or not it's a choice.

[rwyatt365]

I have had people tell me that being gay was my choice. And if I wanted all the rights and privileges that straight people have, I shouldn't have chosen to be gay.

My response....

"So when, exactly, did you make the decision to be straight? Did you take the time to explore the alternatives before you made your decision? How do you know you made the right choice if you haven't explored the alternatives?"

Usually that changes their opinions about whether or not it's a choice.
I hate it when people use the "choice" argument in any realm. To me, that's a cop-out for not trying to understand another persons motivations, or world-view. Simply insert, "Well, you made that choice to..." and turn off brain.

I'm hetero male, and I just like women. That wasn't something that I chose to do - no moreso than you woke up one morning and said, "You kow, I think I'll be gay from now on." Patently absurd.

[umop_3pisdn]

I consider myself exclusively gay, while I don't exclude the possibility of finding love in the same sex, I just don't see it as very likely. At least not in a sexual sense. I can find women beautiful or alluring in a purely aesthetic way. I also tend to admire many strong female figures, and form stronger friendships with them, due to them on average being better communicators than most men. However, in terms of lust and romance, I have a higher affinity for the "male" mind and masculine features.

I also hate the gay as a choice arguement. I don't necessarily think it's entirely an issue of heredity, but that isn't really the issue. I have no recollection of ever making the "choice." If life was a "Choose your own Aventure novel" and two potential paths available to me were "be a fag" or "be a breeder", I think the average person could figure out which I'd have picked, if purely for the sake of not being a minority.

[deicruxified]

i'm straight but i often call myself a sponge due to my asexual tendencies of not being attracted to any of the genders hahaha or is it just me being uber detached from a lot of things in the society.

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I would be curious to know how many INTJ women are homosexual? The information that I've read online says that they must be more in touch with their masculine side and tend to go against the flow...
there's a difference between being masculine/feminine, man/woman and male/female. a female can be masculine but is still a woman. i am often confused as being a tbird way back in highschool not only because of my adnrogynous look but because of my attitude but i'm hetero. and some even think i'm gay lol... i like the guess the gender game whenever i go to shops or resto's. the greetings have always been

"good morning ma'am... sir"
"good evening sssma'am"
"hi sir! umm ma'am may i take your order... ummm sir?"

[Paul V]

You aren't being true to yourself. :)

You might like weiner but are afraid to find out.

ZOMG DRAMABOMB!!! :)

Actually, I've never got drunk before. So based on the information I've researched, I did the INTJ thing and assumed the worst.

NICE TRY! ;)

[Hdier]

In regard to the 'why did you choose to be gay' thing:

I so hope someone asks me this some day; my answer is pretty much planned out:

'Oh, I heard someone talking about how horrible it was to be gay because of all the prejudice and phobia attached to it. I did some research and found out he was right; to most people, being gay automatically makes you excluded, a pervert, etc., and I thought it might be fun to be discriminated against, so I decided to be gay. When did you decide to be straight, you f***ing b****?' (yelling last two words; storm off after giving him the finger, speech before that all nice, conversational tone)

Or something along those lines. What do you all think?

[Lucid]

In regard to the 'why did you choose to be gay' thing:

I so hope someone asks me this some day; my answer is pretty much planned out:

'Oh, I heard someone talking about how horrible it was to be gay because of all the prejudice and phobia attached to it. I did some research and found out he was right; to most people, being gay automatically makes you excluded, a pervert, etc., and I thought it might be fun to be discriminated against, so I decided to be gay. When did you decide to be straight, you f***ing b****?' (yelling last two words; storm off after giving him the finger, speech before that all nice, conversational tone)

Or something along those lines. What do you all think?

I like it except for the yelling at the end. Otherwise I think it perfectly makes your point. Yelling obscenities just gives them cause to dismiss you as a lunatic.

[Hdier]

Yeah, I didn't want to include that, but I think I'd be to emotionally revved up to resist shouting at them. Then again, if I did it in a subtler way it would be so much more satisfying. Perhaps changing the ending to something more along the lines of "Did you decide to become straight because of all of the social advantages that come with it, and because it would make things easier on you?" All the while allowing the other person to realize that I am 'keeping a violent rage covered up' through facial expressions, etc... I like that idea a lot better,

BTW, how do you know I'd be dismissed as a lunatic? Have you yelled obscenities?

[niffer]

I can't resist adding the link: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

:stunned: WTF. A little...too much to look at, imho. :suspicious:

[Meyer]

Ahhh sex. The one time in life when i am competely ok with letting go of rationality. To give yourself over completely to your animal instincts with the only repercussions being a satisfied but somewhat smitten partner is a wonderful thing.

[deicruxified]

In regard to the 'why did you choose to be gay' thing:

I so hope someone asks me this some day; my answer is pretty much planned out:

'Oh, I heard someone talking about how horrible it was to be gay because of all the prejudice and phobia attached to it. I did some research and found out he was right; to most people, being gay automatically makes you excluded, a pervert, etc., and I thought it might be fun to be discriminated against, so I decided to be gay. When did you decide to be straight, you f***ing b****?' (yelling last two words; storm off after giving him the finger, speech before that all nice, conversational tone)

Or something along those lines. What do you all think?
hahaha i love it!

i'm also waiting for the day when some cute girl would ask me why i "act" so boyish. i would really love to shove her face in the mud and tell her, "if i were you i could've punched your tits."

[B0RGS]

Heterosexual, although I do have some odd fetishes involving women.

[Solnath]

I had to answer "undecided" because although I've been heterosexual-willing-to-try-men for most of my mature-thinking life, I'm almost all but asexual nowadays. I can imagine myself having sex with Jessica Alba, for example, but it does nothing real for me. However, I'm not completely sure about this as theory != practice, so I'll have to test it with a specimen.

[Tsuru]

I'm kind of a mix between bisexual and asexual. Leaning more towards the latter. :o

[Solnath]

Tsuru, so, uh, you wanna make out?

[The 10th Plague]

Well, I'm homosexual and I'm not making a secret of that.

And: people DON'T choose their sexuality, but HDier already made that perfectly clear ;)

[Solnath]

I'm going to have to invade this thread further to reply to that. People can choose their sexuality. It takes a lot of effort but it can be done, just like almost any other indoctrination can be enforced.

[Lucid]

BTW, how do you know I'd be dismissed as a lunatic? Have you yelled obscenities?

I've been on both sides of the yelling obscenities and being called a lunatic for it equation. :embarassed:

[Hdier]

I've been on both sides of the yelling obscenities and being called a lunatic for it equation. :embarassed:

Really? I've never yelled obscenities before, but people do call me a lunatic (It's generally behind my back, though).

And: people DON'T choose their sexuality, but HDier already made that perfectly clear ;)

Thanks...unless you are saying that I overdid it. :laugh::p

[danalaina]

I prefer bisexual women.

is it funny that for just a moment, i thought the board in your avatar was a gigantic phallus?

[SMKN LS1]

I like women, and women like me. Oh, I'm a guy. Did I mention that I like women?

[Blendy]

I'm straight. I love looking at women and find them beautiful, but not in a sexual way. Oh, and I find the idea of men being with men incredibly hot. Lesbians do nothing for me though.

[terencec]

A young. pretty girl with toned body is an art. It is so beautiful. Unforuntely, most of them will be out shape by 40 or even 30. It is sad that the beauty lasts very short time. But there is always another girl available (to look at!)

I also "like" a male actor too.

I think I like girls most of the time!

[banzai]

I love looking at women and find them beautiful,

A young. pretty girl with toned body is an art. It is so beautiful.

It is so true, I wish I had a better way to express it.

Even just today I was at the rock climbing gym and there was this thin foreign gal on the ropes next to mine. I mean, I'm not one to stare but the way her waist tapered just kinda...

"Hmmmm..." *falls off*

[rocksteady]

I'm going to have to invade this thread further to reply to that. People can choose their sexuality. It takes a lot of effort but it can be done, just like almost any other indoctrination can be enforced.

I think so as well. I'd say it's probably about 70%nature, 30%nurture. (guess)

I think most people are predisposed towards one sexuality, some both, and others can learn to be what they choose.

It's kind of like being right handed/left handed, some people can do both, it's just a matter of which predisposition you favor growing up I suppose.

[Hdier]

No, it's not a matter of choice. Yes, someone can choose to defy their nature. Yes, a homosexual can choose to have sex with the opposite gender, and vice-versa. However, that persons' sexual orientation would stay the same, their attraction to people would remain the same, and they would be unhappy without therapy. If simply simply sleeping with some one of the same/opposite gender would make someone homo-/hetero-sexual, then the majority of people in America would be considered bisexual (weather or not they admit it)!

[ambient]

No, it's not a matter of choice. Yes, someone can choose to defy their nature. Yes, a homosexual can choose to have sex with the opposite gender, and vice-versa. However, that persons' sexual orientation would stay the same, their attraction to people would remain the same, and they would be unhappy without therapy. If simply simply sleeping with some one of the same/opposite gender would make someone homo-/hetero-sexual, then the majority of people in America would be considered bisexual (weather or not they admit it)!

Always found the nature vs. choice argument redundant. If I where to walk out of an ice-cream parlor with a scoop of vanilla rather than chocolate. Would it make a difference whether I choise vanelia or if they where just out of chocholate? One senerio involves a choice and the does not. Regardless of flavor, if I’m happy with the current situation, why should anyone care if it was by choice or default…. As for me personally, I’ve always enjoyed the swirl.

[rocksteady]

then the majority of people in America would be considered bisexual (weather or not they admit it)!

I actually believe this to be true. Homosexuality has run rampant through history, it's only recently been suppressed. I'm positive that most people are at least slightly bi-sexual. Getting them to say that, good luck!

Also, the physical act of sex should not be the only indicator of sexuality. When a man can appreciate the good looks of another man, that should be considered mild bi-sexuality.

[Antares]

I'm straight, but I do not exclude the possibility that I might be a little bi. So far my love interests are all men and I find that men are substantially more attractive to me than women. I mean... I like to look at beautiful women as well, but without sexual interest. I at most admire their looks and marvel at their beauty, but I am not attracted to them. ;) I remember my friends asking me if I'm straight when I said: Wow... That woman is beautiful.

[Lucid]

Also, the physical act of sex should not be the only indicator of sexuality. When a man can appreciate the good looks of another man, that should be considered mild bi-sexuality.

I don't think that's true. I think you can appreciate the aesthetic of something without being sexually attracted to it. After all, I can say, "Wow, that's a good looking dog!" and not want to have sex with it. :)

[rwyatt365]

I don't think that's true. I think you can appreciate the aesthetic of something without being sexually attracted to it. After all, I can say, "Wow, that's a good looking dog!" and not want to have sex with it.
Agreed. When I see a good-looking guy, I can appreciate those things that (to me) constitute his good looks – of course, I hate him for them, and the fact that others equate looks to; intelligence, worthiness as a human being, suitability as a sex partner, and any of a hundred other things that people equate looks to. But at no point am I attracted to that guy.

Now, the day that I start wondering if any guy might be good in bed, or if he's a good kisser – that's when I'll question my sexuality.

[quentin]

That's just the thing, though. As a normal heterosexual male, I can't tell whether a guy is handsome or not. Women seem to be able to spot another beautiful woman, but most men can't spot a great looking guy. The few times that I have tried, I've been told that I was totally wrong by my female or gay male friends. I've come to the conclusion that guys are hopelessly clueless as to what a good looking guy looks like. It's impossible for us to tell.

[Lights]

That's just the thing, though. As a normal heterosexual male, I can't tell whether a guy is handsome or not.

So what is the difference between a "normal" and "abnormal" heterosexual male. ;)

[Danisty]

I voted bisexual, but I'm more correctly pansexual in that I'm attracted to all sexes rather than both sexes. If I weren't happily married and monogamous, I could easily be attracted to men, women, transsexuals, etc.

[The 10th Plague]

I actually believe this to be true. Homosexuality has run rampant through history, it's only recently been suppressed. I'm positive that most people are at least slightly bi-sexual. Getting them to say that, good luck!

Also, the physical act of sex should not be the only indicator of sexuality. When a man can appreciate the good looks of another man, that should be considered mild bi-sexuality.

Well, I must agree with you that no-one on this planet is 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexuals. I think there's always a small bi-sexual portion. So the question "what's your sexuality" actually becomes trivial. It's about defining the border of heterosexuality and homosexuality. When I say I'm homosexual - which is fact - I'm actually saying "I'm 95% homosexual". The other 5 % make me slight bi-sexual. But that's trivial. So, where do we still say the person is homosexual? 60%? 70%? I don't know. I honestly think that's up the person itself.

BUT: you can't change you're sexuality. You can only interprete your sexuality differently. Example: I can't become 50% gay, I'll always stay 95% gay. With 95% I would say I'm homosexual, but another person may say I'm bi-sexual because I'm not 100% homosexual.

And you say you think 30% of sexuality comes from nurture, but how on Earth can nurture influence your sexuality? It's fact that 5~10 % of the entire world population defines themselves as homosexual, in all countries. Even in those countries where homosexuality is a severe crime (such as Iran, and Saudi Arabia). So please tell me how nurture may affect someone's sexuality? I think there is no awnser to that, because nurture just cannot affect someone's sexuality.

[OneBadMother]

I like to look at beautiful women the same reason I like to look at beautiful swords or minerals or clothing, because they're "well-crafted". Maybe that's my S speaking.

[rocksteady]

. So please tell me how nurture may affect someone's sexuality? I think there is no awnser to that, because nurture just cannot affect someone's sexuality.

Ok, I think that when something is more prevalent in popular culture, it is more willingly accepted and therefore practiced more frequently and openly. In a culture that shuns the behavior, it is a little more repressed and maybe not practiced as much. So basically what I'm saying is that culture can have at least a slight effect on emphasizing someones sexuality in one direction or the other, so it's not completely decided by nature, society is involved. People are highly adaptable.

[The 10th Plague]

Ok, I think that when something is more prevalent in popular culture, it is more willingly accepted and therefore practiced more frequently and openly. In a culture that shuns the behavior, it is a little more repressed and maybe not practiced as much. So basically what I'm saying is that culture can have at least a slight effect on emphasizing someones sexuality in one direction or the other, so it's not completely decided by nature, society is involved. People are highly adaptable.

Well I must agree with you that culture affects people's actions. It will be more likely to find openly homosexuals in country's where homosexuality is accepted, but nurture cannot change sexual feelings. Love and sexual attraction is a bio-chemical proces, which cannot be altered by nurture. That would be like altering your hemoglobine-production through culture. Thus, the feelings will always remain the same, the actions do not.

[WavesSootheMe]

I think you're underestimating the plasticity of our neurons and biochemistry. If we could not significantly alter our neurochemistry, then therapy would cease to exist. Experiment after experiment has shown that our brains can change and compensate with experience. I like to think of biology as guidelines that are shaped and changed by experience. We are not blank slates anymore than we are robots. On the matter of sexuality, I cannot say how much is nature and how much is nurture, but I don't see how knowing the actual ratio would lead to any fruitful advancements. I think the main point is that identifying as something other than heterosexual does not mean that you are psychologically damaged. Nurture that fosters biology that leads to behavior outside of societal norms is not necessarily negative (and certainly not for the majority of cases on this topic). We should all be free and comfortable to identify ourselves based on our own inclinations no matter the origin. Our sexuality is our own. Besides fear and misunderstandings, I fail to see why it is such a public matter. There may be associated issues that negatively affect society as a whole, but the actual act of a woman having an intimate relationship with another woman or a man having an intimate relationship with another man does not.

[toonia]

I'm heterosexual, although I can deeply appreciate women's sensuality. Seeing a beautiful woman reminds me of the ideal of what I can hope to be. I haven't ever been with a woman and am naturally inclined towards men. I tend to intellectualize sexuality and have been called on that more than once on other forums. It fascinates me. It has many layers and complexities and encompasses so much of the human experience. I also rely on intellectualizing it perhaps because I have had relatively little experience with it. My background is atypical which left scars. I am married, but in a process of restructuring through some degree of separation, so at the moment my own sexuality is basically haywire. Although, I can analyze it and describe many of the levels of complexity occurring. Oh well.

[Booko]

I am and always have been hopelessly heterosexual.

My cat, however, is sexually confused and wants to mate with me.

I think I had him fixed too young...either that or he's seriously into bestiality.

[True Brit]

I am completely straight, and have always liked girls since I hit puberty. I've never been "confused" or any thing like that. Good looking girls are great! It is hard to find just the right one to complete me, however. I imagine its probably hard for a lot of us.

[axiomtangent]

I'm heterosexual, though I contemplated being a female when I was younger, but only because I believed there to be some advantages in life for females that I could exploit, and not as a truly sexual desire, so I guess that doesn't count. (I was like 9, so don't pigeon hole me a chauvinist yet, I'll give ample opportunity for that in future post I'm sure)

I'm (considering my occupation) surprisingly open minded about homosexuality, taking a "live and let live" approach. I always find it funny when my fellow heteros panic when they find out someone they know is gay, as if every gay person is going to jump on every random guy/girl they see.

I'm on the nature/nurture combo side of the argument. I get into arguments often with the "they don't have to be that way" people and usually shut them up by applying the inverse of their theory... so you could become gay if you wanted to?

I love a good logic loop, don't ya'll?

[Hdier]

The only problem is when someone says yes, they could, but they simply don't want to.

What is your profession?

[axiomtangent]

True, but in my experience people of that mindset have seldom thought there point of view through objectively and rarely even attempt to see things from the other viewpoint. Thus, mental vapor-lock.

I am a Marine, which probably puts me in contact more often than not with narrow range of personality types and therefore skews the data I've collected with regard to the reactions of people to certain arguments.

And yes, I have ongoing "experiments" that involve verbally provoking or intriguing people I come in contact with to gauge how they react/think, and keep a mental log of it. I was hoping that other INTJs do something similar (probably already a topic on there somewhere) and I'm not just weird. I have a compulsion to figure people out, mainly because they baffle me so much.

Went off topic I think, yet another bad habit of mine... along with convoluted sentences and.... ellipse abuse.

[Sunnyoneshine]

I'm female. Married to a man, whom I've been attracted to for years. However I'm also attracted to females.

Haven't tried anything with women. Always wondered.

[SuperTrouper]

I think these posts are all so fascinating.

I'm a gay male, 23 years old. I say gay, because I'm predominantly gay. Throughout my childhood and adolescence the people who I became extremely attracted to emotionally (childhood) and physically (adolescence/present) have been other males. But I've occasionally been bewildered with a strong emotional and physical attraction to certain women. But I intellectually, emotionally, and physically understand men much more intimately, since I am one, and this comforts me greatly. I don't think sexuality is really fixed, but generally follows predominances and is typically somewhat fluid throughout one's lifetime.

In response axiomtangent... I do the same thing with people, and everything in general. Poke and prod them for responses and log all of them in my memory in order to figure them/it out precisely. It comes in handy when intentionally trying to provoke a desired response (from person or thing) because, having figured out their/its pattern of responses to certain stimuli, you can recreate it almost exactly by applying the same stimulus. It also helps in just understanding people or things for no reason than to figure them out. Life becomes easy, well-controlled, effective, and efficient this way.

[prometheus]

You deviants, everyone knows god said only women could be bi! [/sarcasm]

I don't buy the whole percentage argument. I'm married, have been for 13 years, only dated women before that time, and was never even slightly slightly attracted to someone of my own sex. You can call me a 100% statistical outlier if you need to. :P

[INTroJect]

Possible injuries aside, I'd just like to fall into a pile of women

THAT is funny!





TheLoneINTJ added to this post, 7 minutes and 34 seconds later...

I'm straight. I love looking at women and find them beautiful, but not in a sexual way. Oh, and I find the idea of men being with men incredibly hot. Lesbians do nothing for me though.

Interesting. Is it possible that more straight women are like this (equivalent to how straight men think about lesbian woman) but are less vocal about it?





TheLoneINTJ added to this post, 22 minutes and 58 seconds later...

I am a Marine, which probably puts me in contact more often than not with narrow range of personality types and therefore skews the data I've collected with regard to the reactions of people to certain arguments.

So Marine...explain this paradox for me. Why is it that every single gay marine I encountered in the service was a nelly power bottom? *Always* Someone explained this to me once and I thought he was joking with me. Certainly it could not be true. But then I was stationed in Pensacola, surrounded by marines and...well...yes. Definately confirmed. All nelly power bottoms (meaning: crazy about getting dominated over).

I had to do some "Chicken before the egg or egg before the chicken" thinking on this and I couldn't figure for certain if its something that is developed from boot camp or they join because of that? Your thoughts on this?

Do you...possibly....maybe...see a connection with that in your own hetero way?

[axiomtangent]

Well, I now have a new sexual term to add to my ever growing catalog of euphemisms.

If there is a predilection among heterosexual Marines to be dominated, it would be a well kept secret. We (Marines) are as much a fraternity as a military organization as I’m sure your exposure in Pensacola would have shown you.

There is a lot of bravado and posturing among my peers as well and that usually brings with it a guarded image that may not accurately reflect the person inside. We seldom let that guard down and often act more like a pack of predators, always trying to ferret out the weak among us. The larger the gap between the image given and the person inside the higher the likelihood that there would be a need to experience “release of control” in sexual activity. But, as I said, it wouldn’t be information volunteered in conversation for fear that one of us might smell blood and attack.

Speaking for myself, I’ve never really thought of myself as dominate or passive in sex, but rather focus on what feels right at the time and go with the flow. It is probably the only time my mind is not trying to figure everything out, which is something I need from time to time.

[aelan]

I voted hetero and undecided. Because I am bi/pan-curious, more so at some times than at others, but I always end up coming back to being straight, which I am most of the time.

[Hdier]

What does pan sexual mean? (BTW, in my chess club we figured out how to be tri and quad sexual [don't ask about this club...]; the first is including people of both gender and the second is including people of no gender; actually, they could be any combination of three and four, but you get the point]

[Tsuru]

What does pan sexual mean? (BTW, in my chess club we figured out how to be tri and quad sexual [don't ask about this club...]; the first is including people of both gender and the second is including people of no gender; actually, they could be any combination of three and four, but you get the point]

The lofty definition of pan-sexual is that you're open to relationships with any and all (assumedly adult) types of humans.

The more simple and crude definition is that you're a bisexual but will do trannies and shemales too. :P

[Hdier]

The last last made me laugh; for some reason putting things like that bluntly tends to be amusing to me...probably because things are sugar-coated so much.

[quentin]

Like George Carlin put it, "Bisexual. Can you imagine what that must be like? Can you imagine what it must be like to want to have sex with every person you meet?"

[INTroJect]

Well, I now have a new sexual term to add to my ever growing catalog of euphemisms.

If there is a predilection among heterosexual Marines to be dominated, it would be a well kept secret. We (Marines) are as much a fraternity as a military organization as I’m sure your exposure in Pensacola would have shown you.

There is a lot of bravado and posturing among my peers as well and that usually brings with it a guarded image that may not accurately reflect the person inside. We seldom let that guard down and often act more like a pack of predators, always trying to ferret out the weak among us. The larger the gap between the image given and the person inside the higher the likelihood that there would be a need to experience “release of control” in sexual activity. But, as I said, it wouldn’t be information volunteered in conversation for fear that one of us might smell blood and attack.

Speaking for myself, I’ve never really thought of myself as dominate or passive in sex, but rather focus on what feels right at the time and go with the flow. It is probably the only time my mind is not trying to figure everything out, which is something I need from time to time.

Hmmm. Thanks for ur thoughts on that. I had to do the duty bus a couple of times to pick the students up from the airport. The Navy recruits were always coming right from boot but the Marines had Boot and some other school before going to Pcola, something about the color of their belts? Anyway the Navy students were kinda lost and scattered a bit in their ways but the Marines, from the instant they got off that plane, started establishing an ad hoc rank and order to things. They were talking about these belts and Parris island and whatever that other school and chiggers and POGS and which school was harder so who was more hoo-rah than who. It was a bit annoying when they would start talking about nasty civilians, nasty this, nasty that, nasty everything. Except for a bit of remaining residue, most of that talk would wear away by the time they left.

There was a big wave of them who got kicked out for taking E. Kinda funny how the ones who were the most in your face 'Im a Marine' disapeered after the results from a drug screen. One of the Marine instructors would say that if he was on barracks guard and caught '2 guys goin at it' he would beat the hell out of them and then claim that they tried to attack him. That kinda scared me a bit but the rest of the time at the school was Fabulous.

[BadMojo]

I'm hetero - never seen a hairy butt as anything remotely sexy.
Girls with long red hair and curls = woof woof!

[Pinkie]

I'd probably say I was actually asexual, rather than anything else. I voted straight, however, because on the rare occasions that I do find someone attractive, that someone is always of the male persuasion.

[TerrySC]

I have had people tell me that being gay was my choice. And if I wanted all the rights and privileges that straight people have, I shouldn't have chosen to be gay.

My response....

"So when, exactly, did you make the decision to be straight? Did you take the time to explore the alternatives before you made your decision? How do you know you made the right choice if you haven't explored the alternatives?"

Usually that changes their opinions about whether or not it's a choice.

Well Pheonix,

Although I'm Hetrosexual, I had always leaned toward choice in my thinking. Your statement has caused me to rethink my opinion. As far as exploring alternatives, I have no interest in it. If I were female I might, but then again I'd probably be wired differently if I was female, then how would I think?

Therefore, you have made a very good point about being born (wired) the way you are. Thanks for setting me straight. (no pun intended)

[SuperTrouper]

This is another thing about sexuality that I don't understand. Why is it that the more euro-american societies view woman who have sex with each other, not only more likely, but more normal?? Is it simply because they're seen as naturally being open to possibilities? Natural optimists?

The logic doesn't seem to hold here, though. Men are genetically predisposed to want quick, casual sex. And not simply when the mood strikes them, but whenever they get the opportunity! lol Women tend to be far from this, preferring to conserve their sexuality for more longer-term prospects. So, it would only strike me as logical that 2 men would find it easier to get it on with each other, if they were even remotely open to it, than 2 women.

And I guess my last thing is about the people who think sexuality is a choice. Which would presuppose that a child maturing through adolescence would have not had any emotional/physical preference for either sex up until their genitals began maturing. But people take an extraverted view on this, rather than an introverted one. I say to myself, I have naturally preferred boys over girls as far back as my memory will take me in my youth, therefore logically, this wasn't a choice I could've made on my own at 4. Whereas people who take an extraverted view think that since most of the population naturally prefers the opposite sex, that the minority who prefer both and the tiny sliver that exclusively prefer their own must be choosing "against the establishment", so to speak. While both are possible, the former is significantly more likely. I would think someone's logic was faulty if they thought otherwise. Jus' me, though.

[INTroJect]

The logic doesn't seem to hold here, though. Men are genetically predisposed to want quick, casual sex. And not simply when the mood strikes them, but whenever they get the opportunity! lol Women tend to be far from this, preferring to conserve their sexuality for more longer-term prospects. So, it would only strike me as logical that 2 men would find it easier to get it on with each other, if they were even remotely open to it, than 2 women.

Go take up an enlistment or have a talk with the submarine croud. You may find that your logic is closer to accurate than what is socially acknowledged.





TheLoneINTJ added to this post, 5 minutes and 21 seconds later...

AND I have to add: especially when alcohol is there to provide an excuse.

[phoenix]

Well Pheonix,

Although I'm Hetrosexual, I had always leaned toward choice in my thinking. Your statement has caused me to rethink my opinion. As far as exploring alternatives, I have no interest in it. If I were female I might, but then again I'd probably be wired differently if I was female, then how would I think?

Therefore, you have made a very good point about being born (wired) the way you are. Thanks for setting me straight. (no pun intended)

Terry,

Thank you for being open enough to other ideas to really hear what I was trying to convey. I appreciate both your willingness to listen and your voicing your change of heart. My partner and I always wonder if people who know us start to feel differently about what it means to be gay. It's nice to have feedback!!!

phoenix

[Hdier]

This is another thing about sexuality that I don't understand. Why is it that the more euro-american societies view woman who have sex with each other, not only more likely, but more normal?? Is it simply because they're seen as naturally being open to possibilities? Natural optimists?

The logic doesn't seem to hold here, though. Men are genetically predisposed to want quick, casual sex. And not simply when the mood strikes them, but whenever they get the opportunity! lol Women tend to be far from this, preferring to conserve their sexuality for more longer-term prospects. So, it would only strike me as logical that 2 men would find it easier to get it on with each other, if they were even remotely open to it, than 2 women.

Part of the reason is that in America, I believe that there is still enough sexism to put males in a higher position of influence. Many men find lesbian sex 'hot' or 'attractive', and therefore it is 'cute' for a girl to be a lesbian. At least, this is what I have viewed.





Hdier added to this post, 3 minutes and 49 seconds later...

And I guess my last thing is about the people who think sexuality is a choice. Which would presuppose that a child maturing through adolescence would have not had any emotional/physical preference for either sex up until their genitals began maturing. But people take an extraverted view on this, rather than an introverted one. I say to myself, I have naturally preferred boys over girls as far back as my memory will take me in my youth, therefore logically, this wasn't a choice I could've made on my own at 4. Whereas people who take an extraverted view think that since most of the population naturally prefers the opposite sex, that the minority who prefer both and the tiny sliver that exclusively prefer their own must be choosing "against the establishment", so to speak. While both are possible, the former is significantly more likely. I would think someone's logic was faulty if they thought otherwise. Jus' me, though.

I though about this, and I have always preferred males over females for friends as well as the gender I've been attracted to, so this logic, in the limited pool of two people, holds up.

Out of curiosity, are you male or female? I'm wondering if this might be a thing particular to gays, which is possible as we are still not sure why people are gay.

[phoenix]

I though about this, and I have always preferred males over females for friends as well as the gender I've been attracted to, so this logic, in the limited pool of two people, holds up.

Out of curiosity, are you male or female? I'm wondering if this might be a thing particular to gays, which is possible as we are still not sure why people are gay.


Okay, here is where I have to differ. I, a lesbian, also always preferred male friendships over female friendships growing up. I think it has more to do with my INTJ-ness than my lesbianism. Males were more likely to speak on my wavelength and about topics that interested me than females were. But my romantic choice was for a woman. So the sample of three has a problem.

As an aside, my guy friends almost all turned out to be gay...now isn't that interesting.

[Hdier]

That is weird. You need to start a thread with the fist post being a very detailed autobiography of your life so that I can disect it. Then others need to post their autobiographies, so that I can disect their lives as well and cross-reference them all to figure out why this odd phenomena occurs.

I would actually have fun doing this, but it obviously isn't going to happen.

[phoenix]

Yes, I don't see that happening, though I can see how it would be an intriguing project. Perhaps you should go into psychology/sociology so you can get paid to do projects like that?

[Hdier]

:chuckles: Actually, I am planning on going into psychology and studying how the human mind works, simply because it is so fasinating.

[SuperTrouper]

I'm a guy.

[Danisty]

The lofty definition of pan-sexual is that you're open to relationships with any and all (assumedly adult) types of humans.

The more simple and crude definition is that you're a bisexual but will do trannies and shemales too. :PLol...yeah that pretty much sums it up.

[slut poacher]

totally hetero, absolutely no tendencies otherwise, not homophobic, i think homosexual men are great, 2 extra girls for me for each pair of them.

[Bossy Mom]

I'm heterosexual, and happily widowed.

[Paul V]

happily widowed.

I apologise if you find this hurtful, but I find that statement a bit of an oxymoron. Even if you've gotten over the loss, I highly doubt your widowed stated can be described with "happily". I understand it's none of my business and I respect your choice not to answer.

[Bossy Mom]

I apologise if you find this hurtful, but I find that statement a bit of an oxymoron. Even if you've gotten over the loss, I highly doubt your widowed stated can be described with "happily". I understand it's none of my business and I respect your choice not to answer.

You weren't married to my husband.

[Paul V]

You weren't married to my husband.

Oh. I understand.

[errrzarrr]

Heterosexual. But i'm not afraid of dealing with gays (I have one gay-declared male friend) or lesbians/Bisexual-Girls (I know many Lesbs/Bisexual-girls, I eve had a bisexual girlfriend about 1 and a half year ago).

[Hdier]

What about Bisexual men (the only group you didn't mention)?

[danalaina]

Like George Carlin put it, "Bisexual. Can you imagine what that must be like? Can you imagine what it must be like to want to have sex with every person you meet?"

what occurs to me more is having to put up with them all. >.<

[Xenolar]

I am, in fact, heterosexual. Regardless, I have decided to be celibate, so any information regarding my sexuality is rather irrelevant.

[Paul V]

I am, in fact, heterosexual. Regardless, I have decided to be celibate, so any information regarding my sexuality is rather irrelevant.

Faith, resignation or desperate measure?

[Xenolar]

Faith, resignation or desperate measure?

None of the above.

I'll give you a hint: for the same reason given by the individual whom I have quoted in my personal text.

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

I am a straight woman, and I share the belief that women's bodies are more attractive. I am not attracted to women, but let's face it, we're prettier to look at.

Here's my theory: God made Adam first... To be God's friend and take care of the earth. You don't need to be sexually attractive for those two things. God made Eve second, for God, to care for the earth and for ADAM!

So, the first man made for God; the first woman made, in part, for man.

[Xenolar]

Here's my theory: God made Adam first... To be God's friend and take care of the earth. You don't need to be sexually attractive for those two things. God made Eve second, for God, to care for the earth and for ADAM!

So, the first man made for God; the first woman made, in part, for man.

Oh? My theory:
Adam and Eve are fabricated individuals. They are nothing but symbolic characters from certain religious texts who are now commonly believed to be real people by religiously conservative members of the Judeo-Christian/Islamic Monotheistic faiths. God did not "create" humans. In fact, God is an abstract conceptual entity of omnipresence, signifying the order and symmetry contrasted with unpredicatble chaos in the universe as a whole. Homo sapiens have formed by having evolved over a long period of time from pre-existing organisms. Females have evolved to be interpreted as "more attractive" because it is more logical in an evolutionary sense. Then again, the concept of attractiveness is based wholly of subjective perception. Why is a septic tank not more beautiful than the body of a female homo sapien? The truth is, a female is not more attractive than a septic tank. There is no objective measure of beauty or attractiveness, only individual perception. As it turns out, there is, to some degree, an accepted sense of beauty amongst humans, though there is still some variation. This universal sense of attractiveness is based off human psychology, which in turn is based off brain wiring. It has formed as an evolutionary advantage. When you boil it down to that level, it is all gears and clockwork. Everything becomes clear and understandable.

[Paul V]

None of the above.

I'll give you a hint: for the same reason given by the individual whom I have quoted in my personal text.

From Wikipedia: "Tesla never married. He was celibate and claimed that his chastity was very helpful to his scientific abilities."

That is sheerly idiotic. People are able to focus on their work without being distracted by sex. It's a matter of willpower and finding the right person to share your life with.

[Xenolar]

That is sheerly idiotic. People are able to focus on their work without being distracted by sex. It's a matter of willpower and finding the right person to share your life with.

I do not wish to "share my life" with anybody. She would be an utter nuisance. I want solitude. Sex is sheerly idiotic.

[Paul V]

I do not wish to live with anybody. She would be an utter nuisance. I want solitude. Sex is sheerly idiotic.

Oh, because you don't want to share your personal space with people, now I get it. I thought it was because it interfered with your work or with your studies. Meh, whatever.

[Xenolar]

Oh, because you don't want to share your personal space with people, now I get it. I thought it was because it interfered with your work or with your studies. Meh, whatever.

Indeed. I doubt that it would interfere with work to any considerable degree.

[stasis]

I do not wish to "share my life" with anybody. She would be an utter nuisance. I want solitude. Sex is sheerly idiotic.
It seems to me that the valuation of sex is a basic prerequisite of the perpetuation of human existence, and therefore, an essential precursor to all subsequent human values. Individually disliking sex or finding no joy in it is of course not problematic, but the idea that the act itself is on the whole some mark of idiocy is not consistently rational. Eh?

With regard to sharing a life with a person, though, I have to wonder. Would she be a nuisance to you if she actively shared in your work as well? If she were adept at doing so? Do you enjoy interacting with anyone; and if so, what causes you to enjoy it?

[Paul V]

It seems to me that the valuation of sex is a basic prerequisite of the perpetuation of human existence, and therefore, an essential prerequisite of all subsequent human values. Individually disliking sex or finding no joy in it is of course not problematic, but the idea that the act itself is on the whole some mark of idiocy is not rational. Eh?

With regard to sharing a life with a person, though, I have to wonder. Would she be a nuisance to you if she actively shared in your work as well? If she were adept at doing so?

I think he means "sex for the sake of it".

[Xenolar]

It seems to me that the valuation of sex is a basic prerequisite of the perpetuation of human existence, and therefore, an essential precursor to all subsequent human values. Individually disliking sex or finding no joy in it is of course not problematic, but the idea that the act itself is on the whole some mark of idiocy is not consistently rational. Eh?

With regard to sharing a life with a person, though, I have to wonder. Would she be a nuisance to you if she actively shared in your work as well? If she were adept at doing so?

Hm. That is something of another story. But finding females of the same mindset and interests of mine seems to be an exceedingly difficult task--one that would take to much effort than I am willing to put into it (meeting such an individual by coincidence is another story).

Yes, I would have assumed that people would be rather skeptical of my sex opinions. I very well acknowledge the fact that without sex, neither of us would be here right now. However, I do not believe sex is any longer necessary. I promote the artificial production of humans.

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Hm. That is something of another story. But finding females of the same mindset and interests of mine seems to be an exceedingly difficult task--one that would take to much effort than I am willing to put into it (meeting such an individual by coincidence is another story).
I would agree that it is difficult, and particularly when applied to a relatively non-social or strongly introverted person. But I myself have found it to happen by coincidence, albeit only very rarely. Applied to the basic statement about life-sharing, however, why would one advocate sharing one's life with an incompatible person anyway? That would not make much sense to me, at least.

[FLBareBear]

This poll needs another option - asexual. I prefer to not be active with another person. I can "handle" any thing that might come "up".

[rocksteady]

I don't think that's true. I think you can appreciate the aesthetic of something without being sexually attracted to it. After all, I can say, "Wow, that's a good looking dog!" and not want to have sex with it. :)

this is a good point. I find myself incapable of actually finding animals "sexually attractive", sure. Most humans don't regard animals in sexual terms, but they are capable of it.

what defines sexual attraction? I've been sexually attracted to women that I DON'T want to have sex with, what does that mean?

I think the part of the brain that processes aesthetic beauty is linked to sexuality in some way. I am sure the connection is tenuous and very complex, so it's something that no one can really be "sure" about at this point, one way or the other.

I think if you are able to overcome your body's natural sexual programming, you can start to turn these aesthetic observations into sexual urges, and I think it's been shown that this is possible.

Personally I keep a very open mind about sexuality, I've been in all hetero relationships, but as my brother says:

You never know until you try

So anyone that hasn't had a negative homosexual experience, cannot in full confidence say that they are strictly heterosexual!

It's like saying, I don't like the way that pork looks, too much muscle. I am fully confident that I will not like it's taste.

Yes, a look can reveal more information, but only a taste will give confirmation :)

[Lucid]

this is a good point. I find myself incapable of actually finding animals "sexually attractive", sure. Most humans don't regard animals in sexual terms, but they are capable of it.

Disturbingly, this is true. Although I think it's rare.

what defines sexual attraction? I've been sexually attracted to women that I DON'T want to have sex with, what does that mean?

Probably that you aren't completely ruled by your sexual urges and have the ability to make decisions about whom to mate with based on more criteria than physical attractiveness alone. That's what it is (partially and IMO) to be human :)



Personally I keep a very open mind about sexuality, I've been in all hetero relationships, but as my brother says:

You never know until you try

So anyone that hasn't had a negative homosexual experience, cannot in full confidence say that they are strictly heterosexual!

It's like saying, I don't like the way that pork looks, too much muscle. I am fully confident that I will not like it's taste.

Yes, a look can reveal more information, but only a taste will give confirmation :)

I'm not sure about this, actually. I think it is possible to not try it and still know that it isn't for you. I did try it and found it to be an extremely unfulfilling experience (although I'm glad I gave it a go), so I can't speak from personal experience about this.... but to return to the bestiality example (why is there no worried looking sheep smiley??), I don't have to try bestiality to know that I wouldn't enjoy it.

Although, obviously, homosexuality is a far cry from bestiality and I don't think this draws a connection (however tenuous) between the two. And I think there's something to be said for trying it out to see how you feel about it. After all, one might be surprised. However, I'm not sure it's necessary to try it to be pretty sure it's not your thing.

[jdc127]

Oh my do I love women. :)

I consider myself to have a Tantric view of life and sexuality. All you INTJ's finding it hard to be in a relationship with more feely type folks, try some tantra. Not talking about the esoteric or exotic here, although that aspect can be fun too. I am talking about communication, respect, partnership, mutuality, having fun, not being too serious.

[Capt57]

I think the part of the brain that processes aesthetic beauty is linked to sexuality in some way. I am sure the connection is tenuous and very complex, so it's something that no one can really be "sure" about at this point, one way or the other.
:)

That is a juicy thought. Maybe aesthetics has something to do with evolutionary fitness in general; not just sex. The things we like or find beautiful are no accident. Most of us seem to prefer open parks with lots of grass and water. We tend to prefer symmetrical faces. In fact, if you can live atop a hill surrounded by lots of water and grassy land with forests in the far distance. And your mate was unusually proportioned and symmetrical of body and face. Well...you my friend would be in one of many fairy tales.
;)

[Danisty]

That is a juicy thought. Maybe aesthetics has something to do with evolutionary fitness in general; not just sex. The things we like or find beautiful are no accident. Most of us seem to prefer open parks with lots of grass and water. We tend to prefer symmetrical faces. In fact, if you can live atop a hill surrounded by lots of water and grassy land with forests in the far distance. And your mate was unusually proportioned and symmetrical of body and face. Well...you my friend would be in one of many fairy tales.
;)I wonder what that means for people who are attracted to features that are typically considered unattractive? I've been told more times than I can count that I have strange taste in men.

[Capt57]

I wonder what that means for people who are attracted to features that are typically considered unattractive? I've been told more times than I can count that I have strange taste in men.

Ahh...but maybe your smelling something sweet?

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

Beauty as being subject, yes. But is it also .... more than that. However, you refuse to acknowledge or even consider that.

The Creator is beautiful. And He made creation with different capacities to appreciate his beauty. The human female may not be so attractive to a fish. However, the Creator made beauty with a purpose in mind. Not just to subjectively appreciate, although theres that, too. But, as an INTJ may reason, for mating purposes. And He created the capacity for appreciating different types of beauty.

[WavesSootheMe]

I wonder what that means for people who are attracted to features that are typically considered unattractive? I've been told more times than I can count that I have strange taste in men.

Higher power or not, all this means is that there is a great variety of methods to successfully display fitness and attract a fit mate. The process has a minimum and maximum that is limited by biology and the environment. Anything between is fair game and may vary from one individual to another.

[Capt57]

Higher power or not, all this means is that there is a great variety of methods to successfully display fitness and attract a fit mate.

Well said. So many fitness factors so little time :blank:

[quentin]

People are into different types. Thank god for that or we'd all be pursuing the same kind of men/women.

For example, I live in Asia and most of my white guy friends are what some non-PC people would hurtfully label "Asian fetishists" - that is, they are attracted to the physical features of East Asian women. Myself, while I can ocassionally find myself attracted to some Chinese women that I meet, on the whole I prefer the looks & attitudes of European or Hispanic looking women. I'm very rarely attracted to black women and never have been, despite growing up in a small town that was roughly half black in population. Everybody has these sort of preferences in their sexual makeup, and it's useless to try and deny it. I prefer brunettes to blondes and don't really go for redheads at all. I prefer muscular over thin women. Tall over petite. Etc. Of course, if I met a short, thin redhead of African descent that I really clicked with, I'd have to throw all my criteria out the window.

[rwyatt365]

People are into different types. Thank god for that or we'd all be pursuing the same kind of men/women.

For example, I live in Asia and most of my white guy friends are what some non-PC people would hurtfully label "Asian fetishists" - that is, they are attracted to the physical features of East Asian women. Myself, while I can ocassionally find myself attracted to some Chinese women that I meet, on the whole I prefer the looks & attitudes of European or Hispanic looking women. I'm very rarely attracted to black women and never have been, despite growing up in a small town that was roughly half black in population. Everybody has these sort of preferences in their sexual makeup, and it's useless to try and deny it. I prefer brunettes to blondes and don't really go for redheads at all. I prefer muscular over thin women. Tall over petite. Etc. Of course, if I met a short, thin redhead of African descent that I really clicked with, I'd have to throw all my criteria out the window.
True, how true…I guess I'd call that "clustering". There are a set of features that some group of people (a cluster) find attractive. Your "Asian fetishists" would be a cluster, those that go for the tall, thin, blond-hair, blue-eye, Paris Hilton stereotype are another cluster. This clustering helps keep the species diverse. Else, as you also say, we would homogenize to a single "standard" over time.

Is it possible that this tendency is genetic, or purely social?

BTW - there's something to be said for petite, thin, red-headed, black women! ;) ;D

[dobbin]

Apologies if this has been posted previously, but I find the poll a bit flawed as I would definitely be 'None of the above' or if it was incredibly long and I was forced to classify my sexuality it would be Hetero-romantic Asexual.

Oh and strangely I have had the pleasure of meeting a petite, red-headed (dyed) black women with one of the prettiest faces and warming smiles I've ever seen.

[Beery Swine]

I've always found sexuality interesting...

So have I *nyuk nyuk*. ;D

Edit: Oh, for chrissakes, how does everything on these fora always degenerate into some religious debate? It's like the new Hitler/Nazi thing (which I've now just reinforced).

Oy, people.

[True Rune]

Asexual, but I voted heterosexual since that's the closest to what I am.
To note, my twin brother is homosexual, though I guess this fact would be more interesting if we were identical.

[comet]

I'm heterosexual, even though I have a lot of lesbians as friends, the thought of ever being with another woman is repulsive to me.

I've always found for me, it's an attraction to a man's mind, his physical attributes are quite secondary.

[Freak87]

I'm heterosexual, even though I have a lot of lesbians as friends, the thought of ever being with another woman is repulsive to me.

I've always found for me, it's an attraction to a man's mind, his physical attributes are quite secondary.

that's so true for me too. he can have something sexy about him that has nothing to do with his looks. i very strongly feel this way!





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I love a man who is aggressive and will just grab me. oh that's so sexy wow. someone who will take the lead and take me along for the ride!

[Indubitably]

I would have to say that I am heterosexual, although I did consider myself somewhat asexual for a long time. It is perhaps interesting to note that I have attracted primarily bisexual women, and either because I have a predisposition to be attracted to them or simply from greater exposure them, I tend to be more comfortable with bisexual women.

It may also be of interest that by and in large, my friends are of the female persuasion. Although, they are mostly females that I would categorize as xNTx. Deception, passive aggressive behavior and mindless shopping or the like are rarely tolerated by my friends so I tend to give women the benefit of the doubt. Until they prove otherwise I assume that women are just as capable of communicating and behaving in a rational manner as men. It is perhaps at least as often, that I find that men are emotional, they simply express their insecurity through aggression more often. They are certainly as predisposed to compensate for emotional needs with material wealth as the women I have met. I can't count the number of times that I have met a guy, and the conversation immediately turns to his new shiny sports car, computer, power saw, shotgun, base ball bat, or some other such blatantly phallic object.

[manger]

I read the term "sapiosexual" somewhere that I thought summed it up pretty well. It means one who is attracted to intelligence. That's not to say that I pay no mind to physical appearance. How you present yourself says a lot about how you think. I get turned off by people who are too flashy. I tend to be drawn to a subtly sophisticated look, and a certain level of confidence in the way one carries oneself.

But other than that I'm really not sure where to put myself. Historically I've been asexual. Women (never men) turn my head on the street. When I picture myself in a relationship, it is always with a woman. At the same time, my fantasy life revolves completely around men. I really have no idea where to go with this, but it doesn't give me much grief.

[Stella]

Asexual, definitely... meaning I couldn't vote. However, I'm also very positive about sex and sexuality in general, including the diverse gender identities and orientations.

[Liason]

Completely asexual. My friends describe me as I quote "gender retarded" often. I just don't really feel that attracted to females or males. While my friends point out chicks that catch their eye or guys that were particularly good looking I usually continue on with whatever I was doing; oblivious. Sometimes, for short periods of time, maybe a few weeks, or even a year I'll become interested in genders again, but not in a single one. I'm not bisexual either. A guy I went out with was a little upset when I told him we were over, but like most guys, he took the hint. I told him to look at himself in the mirror and look at me. Who decides independence? lolz. If only I could meet someone very intellectually intelligent, and physically appealing. Is there no such person? ~sigh

[rokxal]

Hetero although asexuality may also subsume a non-romantic or even a non-relationship based attraction to the opposite sex. In my case, I'm attracted to the physical qualities of women, but I neither posses any desires for romance nor an intimate relationship with anyone else. From that perspective, my attitude towards both men and women on a normal basis are non-discriminating.

And yes, my Schizoid rating is a bit high.

[Stella]

Wow, more asexuals here than I thought there would be. However, I consider asexuality to be a lack of sexual attraction... not a lack of romanticism or need for relationships (a-romanticism). I experience aesthetic attraction.

[Liason]

I don't perceive myself in any gender. Physically i'm female, but ask any of my friends and they would tell you I had the most male personality you've ever met.

[mlanders]

Gay man trapped in a straight woman's body.

I just don't take it in the ass.

[animado]

i'm much more attracted more to men, but i'm open to the possibility of 'falling in love' with either gender.

[Liason]

Gay man trapped in a straight woman's body.

I just don't take it in the ass.
Yes! someone who understands!
God, I am attracted to women sometimes, but I just can't resist the guy on guy when I see it. to edit your qoiute to my referance it would be "Bisexual man trapped in a straight woman's body."
It sucks so much:(

[mlanders]

Man-on-man action is HOT!

[Nightelf]

I consider myself asexual for long years. But in fact, I am uncertain. I don't know where it leads to, maybe I am attracted to both genders. Maybe not...

[Indubitably]

Gay man trapped in a straight woman's body.

I just don't take it in the ass.

lol You have no idea how many times I've been referred to as a "lesbian trapped in a man's body". Its good to know that I'm not the only one out there. XD

[Liason]

rare but there eh?

[Indubitably]

rare but there eh?

Indeed. I'd go as far as to say that the three or so in this thread constitute a disproportionately high concentration. I have to wonder if there is any correlation between people who identify as INTX and the tendency to have apparently trans-gender personality traits. Perhaps not any sort of a causal correlation, but there may be a link none the less.

This is not to say that I feel like I am a woman, or desire to be a woman, but I cannot deny that I possess certain fundamental character traits most commonly associated with the female gender. I can't tell you how many times a close lesbian friend has confessed a great deal of sexual confusion over me, "pushing all sorts of buttons that men aren't supposed to be able to push".

[Neuro]

Heterosexual. I like boyish features in women but sexual interest in men is completely absent.

[EternalOblivion]

I wish I could say that my sexuality has always been clear cut, but it never has been. I've been attracted to women and men. Before adolescence, it was more often boys than girls. And I couldn't figure out what exactly made me so attracted to certain male individuals. As I look back, they were generally attractive, but never shared any of the same features, however it was always their internal qualities that interested me the most. Including my first girlfriend.

That was the same with my first few boyfriends, as well. But then as I started dating more and more guys, I think I became conditioned by the culture to put as much emphasis on external appearances, as I did on internal qualities. Needless to say, my standards quickly became very high. But during this time, I realized I was sexually attracted to girls, though not physically or emotionally. Then, sex and love sat one two opposite sides of the room, for me. I had sex without love, and I had love without sex.

Now, as I increasingly have less and less sexual desire (I attribute it to meditation, as it begins to increase again if I, for some reason, haven't meditated very much over a period of time), I'm finding that the feelings of sex and love are merging -- I find it hard to stomach the idea of sex without love. Although... love without sex is perfectly fine to me. But I'm finding myself increasingly more attracted to females and have been mulling the idea of whether relationships would be plausible. I'd say the split is now men 70/30 women, whereas before I didn't give women much thought at all. I'd hate to think what it would mean to come out of the closet a second time, though, if I started dating a girl...

Because of my extremely low sexual desire, I'm also not as often attracted to anyone in general, unless they titillate me on an intellectual level, so I've also begun to identify as asexual. Though, almost nobody understands it, and believes there's something psycho-physiologically wrong. I find it comforting. But my ex's in the past couple years have poked me ruthlessly about it, since I end up somehow paired with sex-crazed individuals.

[Seppuku Savant]

I don't perceive myself in any gender. Physically i'm female, but ask any of my friends and they would tell you I had the most male personality you've ever met.

I hear that quite often. I'm psychologically androgynous. I don't really feel like either gender.

[Liason]

I hear that quite often. I'm psychologically androgynous. I don't really feel like either gender.
Yes. Many a time one of my friends has squeeled"look over there kristin! that guy is totally hot!" I look blankly at the guy, appraise him, but usiually have little or no desire to actually meet him, then another friend will be like" dude! look at that chick! she's totally your type!" and i'll ook blankly at the girl, appraise her, but usually have little or no desire to actually meet her.

I treat both genders equal, however I find myself more often attracted to older males, around 6+ years older than me because they are intelligent. Intelligent females are not as common (that are interested in people 6 years or younger than them.)

[Bandit]

To each their own I suppose

[Antares]

I consider myself asexual for long years. But in fact, I am uncertain. I don't know where it leads to, maybe I am attracted to both genders. Maybe not...

I think I may be asexual as in not interested in sex. I'm not big on romance for now either, to further my case on being asexual, but just because you want romance doesn't mean you're not asexual. Oh well. What's bad about it? I'm still just a kid... ;)

[Nanashi]

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

I've heard this sentiment expressed by several of my guy friends, and I often respond quickly and opinionatedly. :) I will start listing off the hot parts of men's bodies that just stop me in my tracks (the backs of their necks, the back of their ankles and lower legs, some men's arms, the way their hip bones jut out around their jeans' line...and their eyes--okay it's not all exclusively male things, but many of them are),and I say that I don't think men realize how pretty they are. They really are astoundingly beautiful. It's kind of insulting, come to think of it, that they'd think we have no sexual drive towards them or aesthetic appreciation of their bodies. What are we not human? I know they aren't thinking of it that way and that women's bodies are more decorated and mystified, but there is something insanely, primordially attractive about the physical body of a man...be he fit and healthy or too skinny or a bit rounded about the edges.

I am bothered by their assertion sometimes b/c it seems to have the twofold effect of painting men as unattractive and putting women on a more glorified pedestal. It's awkward.

End rant here. (nanashi says this when she comes to the realization that she spewed and might have made a social faux pas.)

[ElstonGunn]

I have absolutely no personal understanding of your "men are pretty" rant, but I'm glad some women feel that way (although I dislike the term "pretty," in that it has female connotations to me, but hey, the sentiment is still a good one).

[NephilimAzrael]

Bi-Sexual.. But practicing heterosexual

[Jesseh]

Just curious as to the makeup of our population...completely anonymous

I've always found sexuality interesting, and like to view it from an analytical perspective. It is quite ridiculous though to make broad judgments about a person based on sexuality alone.


Actually, I find sexuality quite interesting as well. Lately I have been reading my college "Psychology of Sex" textbook like a good Artemis Fowl (...it's a book series... for kids... I like it..shup...)

I found that seemingly ordinary people can be attracted to the most insane things. Like in my book they did polling at some colleges, 7 percent of males admitted to being involved in urophelia or coprophilia, and three percent of women! - (golden showers or worse).

Personally I like men, I like women, I even like t/s men (a lot). I'm not a paraphiliac though, thank goodness.

I agree that it is ridiculous to make judgments on people due to sexuality alone! (As long as no one gets hurt of course, and you're not a pedophile, into hebephilia, and hopefully will do no long term damage to a fragile individuals psyche.

You would all honestly be surprised at the amount of weird stuff that goes on in the bedroom that according to studies are absolutely normal.

I recommend 'Sexuality Today - The human Perspective' by Gary F Kelly.

It's interesting.

Humans these days like to make judgments on other people just because of what gets them going, I think that is ludicrous.

[Skatt]

I voted hetero. I am pretty sure that I chose to be hetero though. I don't think everyone has to choose. I did though.

[Colette]

Hetero, definitely. For some reason I seem to attract attention from lesbian women reasonably often. I'm not entirely sure why this is - perhaps it's because I combine quite a feminine look with a personality that's vaguely 'masculine' in character. I've never been remotely tempted to play in other sandpit :)

[kubrickfan]

Straight. Do have a...variety of exotic interests and experiences but all with females.

Never understood visual attraction to men by either men or women. The female body is, by comparison, so much more fascinating to look at.

Oh indeed it is.