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rocksteady
11-28-2007, 04:26 PM
my my, what a taboo word!
yet, by choosing to visit this forum and not visit other ones, this is essentially what we are doing. That being said, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The links between people of similar personality seem to have much greater potential than any links deriving from religion, politics or race. Now, with the lines between technology and socialization blurring, opportunities to exercise this ability to choose will become more prevalent. Do we accept this as an inevitability, or do we strive to integrate ourselves with people that basically cannot comprehend our way of interpreting the world? What are the implications of such a choice? Should new political groups be formed on these basis?
discuss!
rwyatt365
11-30-2007, 10:39 AM
my my, what a taboo word!
yet, by choosing to visit this forum and not visit other ones, this is essentially what we are doing. That being said, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The links between people of similar personality seem to have much greater potential than any links deriving from religion, politics or race. Now, with the lines between technology and socialization blurring, opportunities to exercise this ability to choose will become more prevalent. Do we accept this as an inevitability, or do we strive to integrate ourselves with people that basically cannot comprehend our way of interpreting the world? What are the implications of such a choice? Should new political groups be formed on these basis?
discuss!
I wonder how many of us here participate in this forum exclusively. Personally, I don't. I probably participate here more often and more vociferously, but not exclusively.
Having said that, I think that technological communication would have to reach a higher level of personal integration before lines of culture, politics and socialization would be entirely breached. By that, I mean that the norm is that, at some point in time or another, we all get up from out computers and engage at some level in the "real world". That engagement will tend to draw us out of the electronic community and back into what is happening around us. Thus, type-segregation will not be viable given today's environment.
When technology reaches the point where that external engagement is no longer necessary, that's when those external influences will become less important, and type-segregation may become viable.
Another question would be; is type-segregation even reasonable? Other than a sense of community and "shared gestalt", what would be the benefit? Is there any political or economic benefit to being as one? Power and wealth are the major motivational factors for integration/segregation. The desire for either, or both, have driven people to break apart or come together. Where is that in type-segregation?
The Rose
11-30-2007, 10:56 AM
I go to other forums too but I feel safest here.
rocksteady
11-30-2007, 04:43 PM
Another question would be; is type-segregation even reasonable? Other than a sense of community and "shared gestalt", what would be the benefit? Is there any political or economic benefit to being as one? Power and wealth are the major motivational factors for integration/segregation. The desire for either, or both, have driven people to break apart or come together. Where is that in type-segregation?
Well, segregation and the forming of communities based on personality types would have huge benefits, I think. Think of it as de-centralizing society.
1. You instinctively understand everyone in your community, leading to better communication.
2. Less conflict with people of conflicting personalities.
These reasons alone are an incentive to move towards these groups. That being said, there could still be levels of integration with other groups, but it's completely voluntary. I really see no downside to this.
As far as the tech, you may know that I am a firm believer in the Law Of Accelerating Returns (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Which basically says that the technology will available quite soon, and it really is time to start discussing the implications.
Well, segregation and the forming of communities based on personality types would have huge benefits, I think. Think of it as de-centralizing society.
1. You instinctively understand everyone in your community, leading to better communication.
2. Less conflict with people of conflicting personalities.
These reasons alone are an incentive to move towards these groups. That being said, there could still be levels of integration with other groups, but it's completely voluntary. I really see no downside to this.
As far as the tech, you may know that I am a firm believer in the Law Of Accelerating Returns (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Which basically says that the technology will available quite soon, and it really is time to start discussing the implications.
I think you'll find that top jobs with great firms pretty much create their own cultural class.
It used to strike me when I was going to college (university) that when I returned to my hometown that people where 1) Shorter than the average I'd noticed at University and 2) More ugly as an average.
rocksteady
12-01-2007, 01:48 AM
I think you'll find that top jobs with great firms pretty much create their own cultural class.
It used to strike me when I was going to college (university) that when I returned to my hometown that people where 1) Shorter than the average I'd noticed at University and 2) More ugly as an average.
ahh, evolution at work! Creationists are such fucking idiots.
ahh, evolution at work! Creationists are such fucking idiots.
Had to laugh, when I was at college a good friend of mine was in Med school and I said "You know what, every Med student seems to have blue eyes", "It’s pretty weird".
And then he went on some rant about being prejudice and so forth...*Err.. cut the NAZI stuff... its just an observation*
Next day, he said, Sheese...you're right. Even the minority students have them.
[The Med school is solely based on exam performance]
Which is some of the basis for me having a very tentative theory about blue eyes correlating more with the ISTJ types and the non blues being more intuitive and creative. I think emotional profile has a lot to do with it.
Henry
12-03-2007, 02:36 AM
my my, what a taboo word!
yet, by choosing to visit this forum and not visit other ones, this is essentially what we are doing. That being said, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The links between people of similar personality seem to have much greater potential than any links deriving from religion, politics or race. Now, with the lines between technology and socialization blurring, opportunities to exercise this ability to choose will become more prevalent. Do we accept this as an inevitability, or do we strive to integrate ourselves with people that basically cannot comprehend our way of interpreting the world? What are the implications of such a choice? Should new political groups be formed on these basis?
discuss!
Well first of all I visit a variety of forums. Only two qualifications necessary: 1. Moderation is neither too strict or lenient (either way kills discussion) 2. The median level of erudition is reasonably high. Little point in associating with idiots. I currently visit this forum, europa-universalis.com, and a few other very small sites.
As to your larger point, I'd say its already happened:
1. SJs are going to be predominantly republican. Social duty, heirarchy, strict punishment, expansion of authority, (allegedly) thrifty, etc.
2. NFs are going to be overwhelmingly democratic. Everyone's happy, social harmony, equality and egalitarianism, interests in arts and education.
3. SPs - if they even care - are likely to vote democrat. Worker and union rights, fewer restrictions on personal freedoms, less sense of heirarchy, etc.
4. NTs - At least on this forum, overhwelmingly libertarian and independent, and this fits with one of the NT's biggest isssues - the individual. In the 80's maybe Republican, but Neocons have taken over the party and are likely to continue to dominate.
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