Insults [Archive] - INTJ Forum

HarleyQuinn

11-28-2007, 09:15 AM

I usually shrug off most insults unless an insult is directed at a family member/friend, in which case I'll usually give a sharp look or glare.

Most insults just make me snicker at the other's "intellect"... if you're gonna insult anybody, least of all me, try and be a little creative about it instead of just calling me a jerk or something.

Hdier

11-28-2007, 09:30 AM

be a little creative about it instead of just calling me a jerk or something.

Amen. I hate it when they use standard insults on me--give me more respect than that!

OneBadMother

11-28-2007, 09:32 AM

Most insults don't work on me. My weak spot is mostly when very close people treat me like I'm defective. That actually smarts.

banzai

11-28-2007, 10:47 AM

Yeah, most people don't know where my soft spots are, so they can't target them.

That's pretty much it.

Stranger: "You're an asshole!"
Me: "I know, right?! Hahaha"

On the other hand, if someone said... "somewhere in the world right now there is someone who is smarter than you and you know it", that would ruffle my feathers. :irked:

GOD

11-28-2007, 01:10 PM

I have 2 modes.

1) I just take it because I don't really want to up the anti

2) But when I feel like a good intellectual headbutt I usually rip them to pieces.

As an example. A work college that’s got too big for his boots, said something that was personally insulting... and I nearly said "At least I don't have man breasts" (and that would have been in front of everyone).

Seriously, when I tee off... it’s a scorched earth policy. I flame them alive.

Maverick

11-28-2007, 01:27 PM

I was wondering INTJ's opinions on insults, specifically ones that aren't really all that insulting. For example, I never got how being called gay was an insult! It just doesn't make any sense! (Though, it is quite hilarious that they'd try to insult me that way; I actually am gay, they just don't know it.

I don't understand the logic behind the fact that some people consider "gay" an insult. I have a positive impression of gay people and would rather think it is a compliment. I find that they have more typically feminine characteristics and I think that it is positive as I enjoy interacting more with such people.

I don't understand insults and don't feel touched by them. More than the actual words, it's the actual intention that will touch me. For example, feeling that an apparent friend is actually trying to get to me hurts me more than what he actually says to try to hurt me.

GOD

11-28-2007, 01:40 PM

I don't understand the logic behind the fact that some people consider "gay" an insult. I have a positive impression of gay people and would rather think it is a compliment. I find that they have more typically feminine characteristics and I think that it is positive as I enjoy interacting more with such people.

I don't understand insults and don't feel touched by them. More than the actual words, it's the actual intention that will touch me. For example, feeling that an apparent friend is actually trying to get to me hurts me more than what he actually says to try to hurt me.

Makes me laugh when women who are rejected try the "you're gay...." routine....

INTJoe

11-28-2007, 04:18 PM

Insults don't bother me too much. And my insults are usually very juvenile and degrading, like "Well you are an idiot with a sub-Ape IQ." Yeah, pretty lame but that's usually where I can get people. lol.

niffer

11-29-2007, 12:51 AM

For me, it isn't really the structure of the insult, but the very fact that they are insulting me that is usually hurtful. This is why people insult each other. They aren't trying to help you out by correcting something that supposedly isn't right. They insult you because they want you to know that they don't like you, and/or/because you aren't fitting into some social norm or whatever.

Insults rarely to ever actually hurt me, because they usually come from super immature people. I know this is the same case for INTJs. The insulter makes themselves look even worse consequentially after making a poorly based or idiotic insult, but generally do it when they are surrounded by a group of friends, thus giving them protection.

rwyatt365

11-29-2007, 05:21 AM

I generally don't respond to insults. When presented to me 90% of the time I simply act as if it never happened. However, if someone persists then my policy is to go for the jugular. as GOD says;
Seriously, when I tee off... it’s a scorched earth policy. I flame them alive.
My intent is to reduce them to a mass of quivering protoplasm...and then walk away. I don't like to hurt people, but I will when I have to.

snoogit

11-29-2007, 05:27 AM

That's pretty much it.

Stranger: "You're an asshole!"
Me: "I know, right?! Hahaha"

Most insults I can handle, insulting my intelligence is about the only one that will get me going. When I know I'm absolutely right , and someone still refuses to believe me? Thats bad. Refusing to belive me by calling me an idiot, and then turning into a 5 year old with their hands on their ears going "lalalala"? Thats a throat punch.

Hdier

11-29-2007, 06:38 AM

It seems that INTJ's all agree on at least one thing regarding insults: they're pretty immature, and don't affect us unless the person in question either gets lucky, or somehow learns our weak spots. Which is very rare.

BF

Thistle

11-29-2007, 06:48 AM

Hdier's on cue re receipt of insults, but what about the distribution of them....?

Hdier

11-29-2007, 06:53 AM

Good point, I didn't think about that; I only use insults defensively (though effectively)

Thistle

11-29-2007, 07:02 AM

I don't use them often, but when I do they tend to cut people down and are very effective (as they're carefully thought through before presented). Then, on occasion, I immediately feel guilty about it.

AnandaMeansBliss

11-29-2007, 07:16 AM

I agree with Maverick. The intention to hurt is clearly more painful than the actual words. Especially if it is a close friend. Another thing. Do any of you habitually get called an asshole? 1) I tend to tease to keep people at a distance 2) I will readily challenge another person's beliefs or actions and often to the exclusion of someones emotions. Is this an INTJ characteristic or am I just a grade A butthole?

Myrak

11-29-2007, 07:27 AM

re; Insults. When they do come, I usually just shrug them off. Anything I say, not limited to insults, is usually well thought out and can be either serious, humorous or both depending on what the situation calls for. Because of this, most people know who I am and what I stand for, and if they even bothered to try engage me in a war of words, that I'd cut them down very easily. Thus I don't get that many insults.

Do any of you habitually get called an asshole? 1) I tend to tease to keep people at a distance 2) I will readily challenge another person's beliefs or actions and often to the exclusion of someones emotions. Is this an INTJ characteristic or am I just a grade A butthole?

I don't get called an asshole, but I engage in both of those actions, especially the second. I don't necessarily "tease" people, just slide in cynical comments on the topic of conversation to provoke some thought cycles. Which leads to number 2, as I find it very interesting to get someone in a debate about what they think about serious subjects, and just play Devil's Advocate more often that not.

AnandaMeansBliss

11-29-2007, 07:52 AM

Yes I often use cynicism to provoke thought cycles. The problem with this is that if you use this technique with a strong ExFx, you just come across as being a dick because they simply do not spend time as much time introspecting. Or they arent interested in changing. Perhaps because it is more so a value issue for them.

esfj: the virgin mary was a virgin
intj: for real?
esfj: yes
intj: dont you see that the ideas behind that principle are founded in the misogynist, power hungry, controlling, political tenets of the early church? doesnt that give you reason to believe that your conception of the divine may be tainted? why would you want to believe something that is tainted
esfj: yada yada yada

Myrak

11-29-2007, 08:18 AM

True, true. I'm not really sure, I've never had that much of a backlash. Could be any number of reasons; probably that the ExFx types didn't listen/don't care, thus they can't actually attack me back. Usually when I make these kinds of comments, I've got a few people there that actually know what I'm doing and where I'm coming from and they all find it really humorous. Maybe the ExFx's feel pressured just to laugh along like it's a joke and not actually process any of what I'm saying?

I often cover these sarcastic, cynical comments in a veil of humour. Something small which I find hugely satisfying is when people laugh straight away out of habit, instinct, peer pressure, whathaveyou... then after a few seconds they just stop and look perplexed, as if they've finally processed what I've just said. I can't help but smile.

Solnath

12-06-2007, 01:14 PM

As mentioned in another thread, on this front, I'm mentally invincible. You can't damage a liquid target by throwing stones at it.

Hdier

12-06-2007, 07:52 PM

But what about throwing sticks at it?

Solnath

12-06-2007, 08:44 PM

Damn, that's a good one. Why didn't I think of that when I first wrote the stone thing? Oh wait, I did.

quentin

12-06-2007, 08:57 PM

What about striking up a fire and boiling it?

Hdier

12-06-2007, 09:01 PM

But you didn't wright it down. It's pretty much the same thing as when someone takes someone else's idea, copyrights it, then makes a bunch of money off of something that they ripped off of a gullible person. The only difference is what I said wasn't funny, it just gave me an opening to make a point.

Solnath

12-06-2007, 09:05 PM

Originality ensues!

Hdier, ellipses. Sometimes omitting something is better than blurting it out loud. You could've left it at that, but you didn't, hence it was less funny.

ShaiGar

12-07-2007, 02:25 AM

You are the intellectually attenuated product of your mothers inebriated dalliance with a randy goat, it is little wonder that you cannot cogitate beyond a third grade level.

danalaina

12-07-2007, 04:09 AM

On the other hand, if someone said... "somewhere in the world right now there is someone who is smarter than you and you know it", that would ruffle my feathers. :irked:

really? i'm pretty much banking on it, myself. i'm no slouch, but if there weren't someone smarter than me, i'd be bored. often.

on the subject of insults, though, i'm not too squishy, and i generally don't bother. either the moment passes before i think of a good one, or the good ones i come up with are too harsh for the audience.

i can think of exactly one time when timing and wit combined properly, and i let one fly in public.

i was working in the graphics department of a company that had several different functions too diverse to explain quickly. i was laying a vinyl graphic on a 15'x15' sign out in the company's shop/warehouse area.

i was cranky, because earlier that day, the newish receptionist had left sitting for hours a delivered item that i needed right away, and as a result, i was way behind schedule. i reamed her for it, though i said nothing unprofessional. i was also cranky because it was 90 degrees out there, and i was having to crawl around in kneepads in front of a bunch of sexist asshats who were hanging around on break.

the receptionist came out to the shop area to smoke and sees me crawling around on this sign while i'm working. angry from that morning, and looking to embarrass me in front of the guys, she sneered at me and said, "what are you doing down there on your knees?"

i said, "i'm studying to be a receptionist."

Diva

12-07-2007, 04:26 AM

It's utterly happy to see that, each insult proves again Einstain's_stupidity_theory:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "

quentin

12-07-2007, 05:54 AM

Only if you insult my honor do I get truly upset. Questioning my personal integrity is off-limits. Most other insults roll off like water off a duck's back.

Hdier

12-07-2007, 10:10 AM

Originality ensues!

Hdier, ellipses. Sometimes omitting something is better than blurting it out loud. You could've left it at that, but you didn't, hence it was less funny.

I know. I was not attempting to be funny. I was attempting (and succeeding) to give myself an opening to make the point that I made. Also, I wanted to make sure that everyone new how cheesy the joke was. :)

Hdier added to this post, 1 minutes and 34 seconds later...

Only if you insult my honor do I get truly upset. Questioning my personal integrity is off-limits. Most other insults roll off like water off a duck's back.

Insulting morals...the worst thing you could do to try and insult me. I just laugh in people's faces if they do that, as I know that my morals are strong and they won't be broken (by me).

Nomad

12-07-2007, 08:51 PM

You are the intellectually attenuated product of your mothers inebriated dalliance with a randy goat, it is little wonder that you cannot cogitate beyond a third grade level.

I can too cogitate, I have a roommate right now! :P

-Nomad

xanodel

12-07-2007, 08:53 PM

Ah, insults...are they trying to get my attention? If yes, they'll have to try harder than that.

ShaiGar

12-09-2007, 07:07 AM

I can too cogitate, I have a roommate right now! :P

-Nomad
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Nomad

12-09-2007, 08:07 AM

cogitate
verb1. consider carefully and deeply; reflect upon; turn over in one's mind 2. use or exercise the mind or one's power of reason in order to make inferences, decisions, or arrive at a solution or judgments; "I've been thinking all day and getting nowhere" [syn: think (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)]

:laugh:
:thumbsup:

-Nomad

Solnath

12-09-2007, 10:24 PM

robin.

12-10-2007, 02:58 PM

ood one, or the good ones i come up with are too harsh for the audience.

i can think of exactly one time when timing and wit combined properly, and i let one fly in public.

i was working in the graphics department of a company that had several different functions too diverse to explain quickly. i was laying a vinyl graphic on a 15'x15' sign out in the company's shop/warehouse area.

i was cranky, because earlier that day, the newish receptionist had left sitting for hours a delivered item that i needed right away, and as a result, i was way behind schedule. i reamed her for it, though i said nothing unprofessional. i was also cranky because it was 90 degrees out there, and i was having to crawl around in kneepads in front of a bunch of sexist asshats who were hanging around on break.

the receptionist came out to the shop area to smoke and sees me crawling around on this sign while i'm working. angry from that morning, and looking to embarrass me in front of the guys, she sneered at me and said, "what are you doing down there on your knees?"

i said, "i'm studying to be a receptionist."
Wow. Beautiful. :thumbsup:

I don't really get all that ruffled by insults...but then again, I have to say that I don't often get insulted. I don't think this is for any reason other than the fact that I've been lucky enough to not have enemies.

When I do get insulted, though, it usually only really bothers me if the person told me I'm not good at something that means a lot to me. In all cases, I make sure to show that I am completely indifferent to what that person said, or I casually point out why they're wrong without addressing the fact that they were trying to insult me.

The Many

12-10-2007, 03:19 PM

Question Everything

12-10-2007, 07:16 PM

I'm actually not very good at insulting others, because I insult them in the ways that would hurt me most-- by calling them stupid or closed-minded or superficial. And it seems like what insults me doesn't really bother others so much. They seem more concerned with being called ugly or bitchy or slutty.

On the other hand, it's hard for others to insult me at all. If I don't respect them professionally or personally, I don't care one whit what they think of me.

Maximus

12-10-2007, 07:50 PM

I've always had a knack for playfully insulting others, especially girls. I've gotten in trouble a few times, though, when I offended :rolleyes: someone because of what I said. So now I try not to say anything the slightest bit insulting until I know the person well. I will never ever understand some people's sense of humor.

As a kid, I was very sensitive to what others said to me, but now I could care less. Only a serious insult from somebody I respect would affect me, and I don't think that has ever happened.

Bossy Mom

12-11-2007, 12:35 PM

The only insults I get are here on this forum due to the fact that it is easy to insult people one has never met (and these individuals make their statements on assumption, not knowledge). I rarely insult anyone excepting these two during the last year: one person blocked my driveway with his car and another nearly broke my daughter's heart.

Nomad

12-11-2007, 12:41 PM

Generally speaking, roommates have the exactly opposite effect on thinking.

"Wouldn't it be great if we turned this room into a Faraday cage?"

So much for self deprecating humor.

-Nomad

Laura_Palmer

12-11-2007, 08:28 PM

A good creative insult can definitely make my day.

abski83

12-11-2007, 09:24 PM

I'm not bothered by insults but if someone even tries to insult people I care about... that's another thing. :)

Antares

12-12-2007, 06:15 PM

I'm not bothered by insults but if someone even tries to insult people I care about... that's another thing. :)

Yes I agree :D The main reason personal insults don't bother me is because well... as mentioned before, no one knows where my weaknesses are. If they tell me: You're a failure of a human being. and/or You lost to XXX in last week's audition, and you expect to win this one? It'd probably piss me off royally. The people I'm around are quite nice and the worst insults I've ever come across in my life is: You're ugly (Honestly, do I care? I have a handful of people telling me otherwise, true or not) Repeated insults don't get to me, but I do find them irritating. ("Hahaha. That was stupid. You were stupid to do that. Why were you sooooooo stupid?" - Says someone) Once is enough. On the other hand, if they insult the ones I care about, I might just flare up.