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INTJoe
11-27-2007, 09:33 PM
So I'm watching "Casino Royale" last night and some thoughts occured to me.

Obviously, nobody close to James Bond actually exists in real life. I think we can all agree on that. He makes for a great character in movies, but it is purely fantastical. He is inhuman. I started trying to prove this theory to myself via MBTI deduction and a few things occured to me. I found the "holes" in his character.

He is both "E" and "I". And I don't mean he's a centrist. I mean he swings from extreme I to extreme E. A man who has no problem chilling alone and contemplating things. At the flip of a switch, he can thrust himself into a packed room and schmooze and charm the pants off people.

He is both "N" and "S". He is superbly intuitive, but he also understands small details and facts. He can operate high-tech stuff or a bulldozer at the drop of a pin. He definitely can see both the "big picture" and the small details simultaneously. He does lean more "N" when it comes to being obedient, as he is pretty much very disobedient. But he's also very S.

He is both "J" and "P". He can strategize the most delicate and risky of tasks and yet when his environment changes right before him, he can make split-decision judgements and manipulate his plan on the fly. I'd assume he leans more "J" more often than "P". He definitely likes closure, and does not allow himself to become distracted. Even by the most beautiful woman.

The only thing I think is consistent about him is that he's definitely a "T" rather than an "F". His decisions are all made to satisfy logic or a plan of some sort. Never does he make a decision based on the people around him. He's a cold, calculating killer.

Anybody have any other thoughts on this or examples?

HackerX
11-28-2007, 05:35 AM
Ah, you're paying too much attention to the extremes of the different letters while forgetting that given the requirements, it's easy enough to fake certain aspects.

And people that are more balanced will be harder to identify and more likely to seemingly swing between different aspects.

He comes across though as a disenfranchised ENTJ.

Nomad
11-29-2007, 01:13 AM
I'm not much good at guessing types, but who he is is far clearer in the books. He loves Moneypenny, but will not be in a relationship with her because he was hurt badly once, and he does not see himself as deserving of her. He has an interesting thought in one book, He does not really like killing people, but he thinks it's important to do it well. He is, for all intents and purposes, a genius and extremely focused, and extraordinarily well trained, before he even became a 00 or even joined the thingie he belongs to. In the books, he is far more human, and less a 'superhero" The books are way better.

-Nomad

INTJoe
11-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Interesting Nomad. What would you guess his character is in the book? Guessing the type isn't that hard, just take it one letter at a time. Then when you come up with each letter, read the description and see if it affirms the character.

Like Hacker said, I could see him being primarilly ENTJ-ish. But with only his "T" being unwavering.

Nomad
11-30-2007, 01:23 AM
i think ENTJ is a good pick, I think the T does waver, a little, it's the J that does not. In the books, he's sort of pushed by emotion, but decides on an action based on consequence. Once he decides, he decides. it's what makes him so dangerous. He decides to kill someone, they have about one half second to live. He does not hesitate.The character seems built around an exploration of the whole "for Queen and Country" thing England has a sort of reputation for. What putting a personal life on the back burner to serve something else does to a person.He is not a happy man, nor even at peace with himself. There seems to be no real internal examination of himself, because he knows that he would not like what he sees.

He's empty inside. Poured out for a country that knows nothing about what he does, cares even less, and working for employers he does not even like.He seems to be so good at his job, because he really does not care. He's trying to die, but he can't kill himself, because that just is not him, so he fights so hard that no one can call him a quitter, or a whinger or a coward, but hoping someone can kill him. Suicide by proxy.

Whatever his type, he's seriously damaged. And he knows it.

-Nomad

ShaiGar
12-01-2007, 12:24 PM
It's my belief that James Bond is an ENTP, One of life's charmers.
A book put out about the perfect Secret Service agent suggested it first as the type most likely to succeed. I agree with it, He's absolutely charming and can be anybody at all. Bond is highly innovative and will change his course of action without many scruples if something blocks the first path. He treats his plans as guidelines, nothing more.

Nice to see that someone else has examined the book character of him as well, That's almost the idea that I got from him as well, with a few minor differences. He loves Moneypenny, but not romantically. There's more of a teasing relationship between the two than anything else.

Alpha Prime
12-01-2007, 07:07 PM
This character, James Bond, has been trained on a broad range of skills (mental and physical). It is therefore difficult to say what type he was born.

HackerX
12-01-2007, 09:08 PM
It's my belief that James Bond is an ENTP, One of life's charmers.

I would almost agree, but I would put him as shown to be very focused on the one "project", hence why I went J over P.

But in that sense he's shown to be very balanced.