Interesting INTJ description

[TheLoneINTJ]

Accurate?

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INTj uncovered

If there were Weirdness Olympics between all 16 types then INTj would be an unbeatable gold medallist. In fact INTjs are so weird that they do not just appear weird to people who don't know them, but to other INTjs as well. This is because INTjs take little or no notice of what other people think. What they think themselves is much more important to INTjs. That is why if everybody is certain that bridges have to be built across the river, an INTj may contemplate the possibility of building one along the river. There would probably be a logical reason for that since INTjs view everything through the square prism of logic. And as long as logical rules are obeyed everything is fine.

"I think, therefore I am" once said Rene Descartes, clearly delighted about the fact that he can think. But what he really meant was "I stink, therefore I am", since INTjs can often deprive themselves of a good bath and can happily live in a pigsty when nobody watches. They miserably fail to understand the basic needs of their bodies and therefore do not address them as a first priority. This goes for food and sex too. But do INTjs enjoy tasty food and sex? Sure, when you stick it under their nose. And what do they do to have plenty of fine food and meaningless sex? Precisely nothing. The latter one could be explained by the fact that by default INTjs are socially handicapped. Combined with their closely guarded fear of intimacy, this makes it pretty hard for INTjs to get laid, resulting in many INTjs being either virgins or remaining celibate for a long time.

Marked with inability to clearly read people's true disposition towards themselves, INTjs compensate for it with their acquired ability to piss people off. This is a rather defensive than an offensive mechanism. It works on the principal that an angry person has very little control over their emotions and therefore cannot suppress their true feelings, which often keeps the truth from coming out. INTjs normally do not apply this principal to anybody unless they are unsure. So as long as you are true and sincere with an INTj you should be fine.

You can't deny that INTjs are pretty adept at many things, but one thing INTjs are really good at is over-tightening the screws, whether it is said in a metaphorical or in a literal sense. Having natural inability to judge amounts and distributions of forces often leads them to overdo things. For instance, if you ask an INTj to design a good chair to withstand the weight of one adult, when it is finished it would probably withstand the weight of one adult elephant.

Finally, if you hear a sarcastic remark from an INTj you should know you are on dangerous ground, i.e. you said something stupid. To continue in the same direction would be unwise. However, if you want to enrage an INTj, all you need to do is to make the same stupid remark over and over again, but more importantly you have to stand by your words, i.e. show that you really mean it... Why would anyone want to do that?

[logan235711]

lol i remember that description, always sounded like it was from someone who was mad that they weren't an INTJ ; ) (i.e. i think it's not too good)

[rwyatt365]

Yeah, I remeber this description too. It sounds like it was written by someone that has gotten out flanked by an INTJ and wants to demean the entire type.

Closet INTJ-envy ("My 'E' is bigger than yours")! :p

[Aestheticbend]

I have never seen this description before, but granted it is quite amusing.

I believe this person was just in a relationship with an INTJ that went awry and his angry at the "flaws" in their personality type. :P

[Ijz]

Heh, it certainly made me smile several times.

You can't deny that INTjs are pretty adept at many things, but one thing INTjs are really good at is over-tightening the screws, whether it is said in a metaphorical or in a literal sense. Having natural inability to judge amounts and distributions of forces often leads them to overdo things. For instance, if you ask an INTj to design a good chair to withstand the weight of one adult, when it is finished it would probably withstand the weight of one adult elephant.

Of course, if the materials are within budget and there is sufficient time, I'd make it as strong as possible. Never need to worry about it again...

[rwyatt365]

Heh, it certainly made me smile several times.

Originally Posted by TheLoneINTJ To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)
You can't deny that INTjs are pretty adept at many things, but one thing INTjs are really good at is over-tightening the screws, whether it is said in a metaphorical or in a literal sense. Having natural inability to judge amounts and distributions of forces often leads them to overdo things. For instance, if you ask an INTj to design a good chair to withstand the weight of one adult, when it is finished it would probably withstand the weight of one adult elephant.

Of course, if the materials are within budget and there is sufficient time, I'd make it as strong as possible. Never need to worry about it again...
I disagree with this part from the OP. As an erstwhile backyard mechanic over-tightening is a big no-no. Snapping off a critical bolt can ruin your day. That's what torque wrenches are for...but the original author probably never heard of one of those. ;) :rolleyes:

[The Rose]

I have broken several things from overtightening screws.

[rwyatt365]

I have broken several things from overtightening screws.
Dangit Rose! You just shot my rebuttal all to hell! :irked: ;D

[DroppedGT]

I have as well, luckily it wasn't on any of my vehicles...

[Lucid]

I haven't read that description before, but I agree it sounds like it was written by someone angry at the type.
I bathe daily! It feels gross not to.
And good food and sex are something of a priority to me.
Also, I'm sarcastic almost all of the time, not just when someone has said something stupid, and I certainly don't go about purposely trying to anger people I'm unsure about. :irked:
It sounds like this person is arguing from an INTJ to all INTJs.

Oh... I have also often broken things because of over-tightening. And I'm really good at stripping screws. :undecided: ;)

[Figmentum]

Accurate?


INTj uncovered

[QUOTE=TheLoneINTJ;16580]If there were Weirdness Olympics between all 16 types then INTj would be an unbeatable gold medallist. In fact INTjs are so weird that they do not just appear weird to people who don't know them, but to other INTjs as well. This is because INTjs take little or no notice of what other people think. What they think themselves is much more important to INTjs. That is why if everybody is certain that bridges have to be built across the river, an INTj may contemplate the possibility of building one along the river. There would probably be a logical reason for that since INTjs view everything through the square prism of logic. And as long as logical rules are obeyed everything is fine. People are stupid, they don't deserve to know what I think. The only exception, is to those who think like myself... INTJ's. Building a bridge along the river makes it easier to catch the big fish in the middle, because the platform is extended over the water. I'd rather keep the big fish in my INTJ community and not build a bridge across the river so idiots can come take them.

"I think, therefore I am" once said Rene Descartes, clearly delighted about the fact that he can think. But what he really meant was "I stink, therefore I am", since INTjs can often deprive themselves of a good bath and can happily live in a pigsty when nobody watches. They miserably fail to understand the basic needs of their bodies and therefore do not address them as a first priority. This goes for food and sex too. But do INTjs enjoy tasty food and sex? Sure, when you stick it under their nose. And what do they do to have plenty of fine food and meaningless sex? Precisely nothing. The latter one could be explained by the fact that by default INTjs are socially handicapped. Combined with their closely guarded fear of intimacy, this makes it pretty hard for INTjs to get laid, resulting in many INTjs being either virgins or remaining celibate for a long time. "I know, therefore you don't." Shower sex is the best with a fuck buddy. There... I just covered social, sex, and hygiene in one sentence.

Marked with inability to clearly read people's true disposition towards themselves, INTjs compensate for it with their acquired ability to piss people off. This is a rather defensive than an offensive mechanism. It works on the principal that an angry person has very little control over their emotions and therefore cannot suppress their true feelings, which often keeps the truth from coming out. INTjs normally do not apply this principal to anybody unless they are unsure. So as long as you are true and sincere with an INTj you should be fine. A person true disposition towards myself is irrelevant as knowing such contributes nothing to my own goals, in fact bothering to know it only distracts me from my accomplishments. It's not defensve or offensive... Don't touch the stove while it's cooking food. As long as one contributes to my goals,they will be fine, other than that, get the hell out of my way.

You can't deny that INTjs are pretty adept at many things, but one thing INTjs are really good at is over-tightening the screws, whether it is said in a metaphorical or in a literal sense. Having natural inability to judge amounts and distributions of forces often leads them to overdo things. For instance, if you ask an INTj to design a good chair to withstand the weight of one adult, when it is finished it would probably withstand the weight of one adult elephant. If it can hold an elephant, then I would have built a pretty damn strong chair. I like that.

Finally, if you hear a sarcastic remark from an INTj you should know you are on dangerous ground, i.e. you said something stupid. To continue in the same direction would be unwise. However, if you want to enrage an INTj, all you need to do is to make the same stupid remark over and over again, but more importantly you have to stand by your words, i.e. show that you really mean it... Why would anyone want to do that? The sooner you know you're stupid, the faster you can deal with it. If you say the same stupid thing over and over... you won't get past the third repitition. I'm prone to shut people up.

[The Rose]

Dangit Rose! You just shot my rebuttal all to hell! :irked: ;DYou can't be right all the time.

[Paul V]

None of that outweight the pros of being an INTJ. I like being myself very, very much. :)

[Henry]

Seems that this person based the description off of one very low functioning INTJ to me, and that they were pretty hurt by something this INTJ did, as there's no discussion of the capacity for free thought, the willingness to invest a great deal in constructive relationships, high academic intelligence, etc.

[Warren_Wong]

Yeah, this guy definiately sounds really angry at everybody of this type hehe. I don't think people realize that even NTs can have very well developed feeling sides too.

[deicruxified]

s/he sounds bitter... lol. i'm oc when it comes to hygiene so i guess i'm out... damn i'm so vein...

[Heretic]

S/he say all that stuff like it's bad thing. :suspicious:

[Bossy Mom]

Wait a minute, I shower daily and I wash my hands frequently (but not OCD-ickly). I rarely have a cold or am ill. I eat healthy foods. The INTJ described above has many of my traits, but certainly not all. I don't care what people think, and I only offend people if they do really rude things, like if they are tailgaiting or pushing ahead of me in a line. I am very polite with people I don't know or people I like. At Christmas I make everyone at work a quilted present and for my mom I made a Christmas quilt. I'm very headstrong and opinionated, but I think (and hope) that goes along with being principled and well-read.

[thegnat]

I don't think s/he sounds angry. I think it's kind of a big joke. I think this person loves our type. I don't think it's meant to be taken literally. Kind of a loving parody IMO. It's all greatly exaggerated (and I think knowingly so).

I think they're doing this to all types. I think it's hilarious IMO.

[sw7104]

One thread that I frequently see running thorough this forum and this specific discussion is the assumption that INTJs are "smarter" or "more intelligent" than other types. That's simply not true. If you read the clinical description closely, what it basically says is that INTJs -- because they possess a rare combination of independence, focus, systemic thinking, and outspokeness about the subjects on which they have mastered -- often **appear** to be more intelligent than others around them. That's not the same as **being** more intelligent.

[The Rose]

One thread that I frequently see running thorough this forum and this specific discussion is the assumption that INTJs are "smarter" or "more intelligent" than other types. That's simply not true. If you read the clinical description closely, what it basically says is that INTJs -- because they possess a rare combination of independence, focus, systemic thinking, and outspokeness about the subjects on which they have mastered -- often **appear** to be more intelligent than others around them. That's not the same as **being** more intelligent.How seemingly more intelligent of you it is to point that out! :cheesy:



(Just trying to make a little joke. Hope you laughed. No offense meant.)

[Rei]

Weird? That we are...
I reject the notion that we can happily live in a pigsty and fail to address our bodies!
My room is exceptionally neat unless I was too busy to even sleep. I love good food and has developed a pretty personal taste in wine at a young age (years before I was legal to drink the first place). Sex I might say that I leave out for the sake of efficiency... but we have sufficient proof on this forum that there are INTJs who are pretty enthusiastic about it.

I may not be able to make conversation with everyone, but I'm quite sure I can tell what people think of me and is in fact rather good at it. I am equally good at making sure I don't piss off people who are easy to piss off as pissing off people who aren't easy to piss off. I know what makes people tick - or get ticked off - I don't need to tick them off to know.
I might agree with the fact that INTJs have more defense mechanisms than most other types.

Not sure about the screw-over-tightening. Over achievement is more a thing of temperament than personality. In the literal sense, I used to take Design and Technology courses a lot in high school and that is probably one of the first things I learned not to do. I'd like to think INTJs are pretty good at learning from mistakes to not keep making the same mistake... but erm... I guess there's proof otherwise...

Sarcasm? I think sarcasm is not restricted to replying stupid remarks...

[Tsuru]

These are from the socionics "uncovered" profiles. They're supposed to be pretty tongue in cheek.