2012

[Meyer]

Just read this post and followed the link within it to a 2012 mayan calendar type site (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). After perusing the info I have to say it rubbed my Ni the right way. Not saying I would bet on it but something seemed inherently right about it. Would love to get some other takes on this. God help me if I'm an f.:scared:

[Fissiongrid]

And haven't you all felt the seemingly faster rate that time is moving at?
I'm relatively new to the MBTI system but I would say that is definitely the mark of an intp.

[Meyer]

I agree. The second post is where you'll find the link to the site from which he got his info. Don't know why I'm so interested but hey its 4 a.m. here so that will suffice as my excuse.

[TheLoneINTJ]

There have been so many prophesies of the end of everything since the begining of humanity. This is just another one. That date will pass by like any other. The only thing that will make it true will be if people believed it and acted as if it was going to happen. Thus causing it to happen.

The same thing happened at 1000 A.D. they thought that 1000 years after Christ God was going to come back and do his Apolycalypse thing...nothing happened.

[Darklord]

Didn't Isaac Newton predict that the world would not end before 2056, and could very well go on for quite a while afterwards?

[Looks it up]

Apparently, it was 2060 (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts._over_end_of_the_world).
Who are we to argue with Newton?

[TheLoneINTJ]

Reality would argue with Newton. He forgot to apply 'What goes up, must come down' to his stock market investments.

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[Meyer]

I agree that its probably not some cataclysmic ending. I still can't dismiss though some sort of evolution in conciousness. Might just be the romantic in me but you have to admit it is long overdue.

[Night]

I'm relatively new to the MBTI system but I would say that is definitely the mark of an intp.

Then, I'd say you were wrong.

The post is ill-gotten flappery. It isn't consequent to any Type, nor endemic to anything outside of fuzzy irrationality.

It's as equally verifiable (and credible) as this (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.).

[Hypomanic]

I used to think that 2012 would be the end.

However, now I think it is complete crap. What makes the Mayans an authority of the subject? I do not see any life-changing/lasting things that they have left us with, really.

If anything, I'd much sooner trust Einstein's opinion on the topic.
Needless to say he had none.

[snoogit]

I always giggle at the "end of the world" predictions. Theres only one I can take seriously, and thats the one where the sun in 5 billion years blows up to the size of earth's orbit frying the planet in the process. I wish I could be there on the day that eggs really would fry on a sidewalk.

[Allwheelsnmotion]

It is hard for me to believe any prediction like that anymore. I am comfortable in believing I won't be around for the end of it all.

If something does happen I will deal with it then, or obviously be delt with. Some of the theories are interesting though I don't get worried sick over it.

[Myrak]

Heh, I'd love for something to happen but it won't. We need some major cataclysmic event just to liven things up here on Earth. Somehow we got stuck talking about fashion and celebrities... *yawn*.

[rocksteady]

Ah this is interesting, because I believe something similar, but not in the end of the world, but the potential beginning of a new one.
Technological Singularity (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

what's incredibly interesting to me, is that both these theories have the same time frames, but one is looking forward to it, and the other is proclaiming it the end. The similarities are pretty striking. That being said, how the hell can you trust this websites interpretation of what a man said 1500 years ago? How do they know he said it?

José Arguelles' "Pacal Votan"

Another example of this carving's manifestation in pseudoarchaeology is Jose Arguelles' identification of "Pacal Votan," of whom he claims to be an incarnation named "Valum Votan," who will act as a "closer of the cycle" in 2012 (an event that is also significant on Arguelles' "13 Moon" calendar). Daniel Pinchbeck, in his book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (2006), also uses the name "Votan" in referring to Pacal the Great. However, this is a spurious identification that derives from Arguelles' writing and is rejected as fantasy by academic archaeologists, epigraphers, and iconographers. Arguelles claims a connection between Pacal and the semi-historical Toltec figure Ce Acatl Tolpitzin Quetzalcoatl, but this is also unsupported by archaeological or epigraphic evidence.

[banzai]

Did the Mayans worship a flaming ball of gas, or was that the Aztecs?

[thegnat]

hahaha - wow. The only reason they said 2012 is because they couldn't fathom what would exist in 2012 it was so out of their range. So of course the world's going to end then. This gave me a good laugh - thanks :D

[snoogit]

Did the Mayans worship a flaming ball of gas, or was that the Aztecs?

Lots of cultures have worshiped flaming balls of gas. But I think of the Mexican civilizations, you're thinking of the Maya.

[PhoenixRising]

I find the 2012 stuff very interesting and to be honest a bit un-nerving. Not because of some of the doomsday stuff which I don't believe but the truth is it's not supposed to be the end of the world, but the start of a new galctic day when the plane of our solar system aligns with the plane of our galaxy and we supposedly re-synchonize with the rest of the galaxy as I recall. What's even more impressive was that the Mayan's figured this out without the aid of modern science with a calendar with an accuracy of something like only being off one day in 300,000 years.
It's been awhile since I've read it, but here is a very good link on the subject for those interested: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[Heretic]

Did the Mayans worship a flaming ball of gas, or was that the Aztecs?

Pick pretty much any polytheistic civilization, they would've had a god for good old Sol.

I tend to discredit doomsday theories for the following thread of reason:

1) Many doomsday theories are based (admittedly or not) on Revelations in the christian bible.

2) The bible has been translated, transcribed, and just plain changed (both for linguistic aesthetics and [presumably] religious "face" . . . I think there was something around the time of the first King James edition to the extent of the former) throughout it's existence. Additionally, a story, aged 2000 years, is bound to be somewhat . . . shall we say, embellished.

3) Our time system is based on the christian bible (see above). Our time could be off from what the Mayans calculated as the end of time by months/decades/centuries. I suppose that theory could be discredited by accurate carbon dating of Mayan dated materials . . . I merely posit the possibility.

Credit where credit is due though, the Mayans and Aztecs were both amazingly advanced in mathematics and astronomy (even though at the time it was equally part Astrology).

[Duncan Cade]

I find the 2012 stuff very interesting and to be honest a bit un-nerving. Not because of some of the doomsday stuff which I don't believe but the truth is it's not supposed to be the end of the world, but the start of a new galctic day when the plane of our solar system aligns with the plane of our galaxy and we supposedly re-synchonize with the rest of the galaxy as I recall. What's even more impressive was that the Mayan's figured this out without the aid of modern science with a calendar with an accuracy of something like only being off one day in 300,000 years.
It's been awhile since I've read it, but here is a very good link on the subject for those interested: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

People, this guy is right. Study the matter, and you'll come too the conclusion that 2012 isn't the year of Apocalyps, Armageddon or Raganarok.
It's the year in wich we, humanity (our souls) will try and ascend to a higher plane of existance.
Prior to this there is indeed supposed to be chaos and all, but that's only a side effect and not the main point. If I'm correct, believers of this 2012 theory, if you can call it a theory at all, predict the world economics to crash in 2008. If this happens, I'm gonna adjust and be ready for whats coming!:cool:

I expect those years to fly by just like any other date though...

[Ijz]

I always giggle at the "end of the world" predictions. Theres only one I can take seriously, and thats the one where the sun in 5 billion years blows up to the size of earth's orbit frying the planet in the process. I wish I could be there on the day that eggs really would fry on a sidewalk.

Haha, I second that.
Another possible reason could be the collision of our galaxy with Andromeda (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) which is supposed to happen in 3 billion years. But honestly, we will probably be dead long before that due to some asteroid, virus, climate change, nuking ourselves, evil nerdy robots, etc...

[Solnath]

I have my bunker ready. It's 2007, do you know where your children are?

[Duncan Cade]

I have my bunker ready. It's 2007, do you know where your children are?

You are very wise. I suppose you're gonna sell your stocks in time too and buy a garage full of twinkies with the profit before it's too late?

[Solnath]

What do you mean, buy? What do you think is in the basement of my bunker?

[Duncan Cade]

Lots of twinkies?

Quick reaction by the way, you have my respect!

[Solnath]

No, dead babies.

(I am completely unsure about the tolerance levels here on macabre Solnathesque humour. If dead baby -jokes are too harsh, well, deal with it. ^_______^)

[Duncan Cade]

Oh my god! A dead baby joke! You are hurting my feelings!

Oh wait, INTJ's don't have feelings.

[Solnath]

You're an XNTJ, anyway.

In all brevity, it doesn't matter if the apocalypse/end of the world as we know it/bar mitzvah comes in 2012. Except if it does, good, I want to see fire raining down from the sky. Yay for burning doom!

[Paul V]

I'm definetely staying alive until that day. I can't wait to see if something actually happens. I'm one of those people who believes that numbers and mathematical calculations can be applied to predict certain happenings.

[Solnath]

How do you know traditional mathematics are enough? I prefer to use quantum intuitive dance pattern recognition for most things, works better than relation-derived formulas.

[Zilal]

I'm just now reading the book "Apocalypse 2012" wherein the author expounds upon the Mayan calendar and a whole bunch of scientific stuff that's supposed to indicate we're headed for catastrophe. I am not that impressed with his level of scientific rigor, heh, but it's still an interesting read to learn more about volcanoes, sunspots etc.

[OmegaPsi]

I read somewhere that this mayan calander 2012 apocalypse was incorrect due to a mathmatical problem. I wish I had a link to it..