Dr. Phil- House of Judgment

[mind_wander]

Since, there is alot of J's in here, glad to share. I was watching this just yesterday, I found this very harilous, most of these people has psychological problem, increasing their J's close to 80% or something. Its nice to know within these 6 people, there was one person in particular, who has the personality that is Anti-society[Could be an INTJ or ENTJ]. Dr.Phil said, he was very intelligent, but needs some further guidance.

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[deicruxified]

what i don't like about dr phil is that he's using media as a psychological attack to his guests. of course humiliation could be a factor to change but i doubt of it's long-term efficacy

[Henry]

what i don't like about dr phil is that he's using media as a psychological attack to his guests. of course humiliation could be a factor to change but i doubt of it's long-term efficacy

People seem to enjoy watching other people being publically rejected and humiliated. Judge Judy is probably the best example of this. Not my cup of tea, but I won't lose sleep over watching Dr. Phil or Judge Judy rip someone apart.

[mind_wander]

People seem to enjoy watching other people being publically rejected and humiliated. Judge Judy is probably the best example of this. Not my cup of tea, but I won't lose sleep over watching Dr. Phil or Judge Judy rip someone apart.

Same thing here, I find it harilous about each persons views; there are alot of holes in it, if you pay attention to it closely.

[Lucid]

The thing about Dr. Phill is that he's a doctor of chiropractic medicine. He uses the term Dr. and people assume he's a psychologist. He is, in fact, an advice giving chiropractor.

The more you know ;D

[deicruxified]

The thing about Dr. Phill is that he's a doctor of chiropractic medicine. He uses the term Dr. and people assume he's a psychologist. He is, in fact, an advice giving chiropractor.

The more you know ;D
wtf...

rlmaof

as far as humiliating people is the concern, i'd pick jerry springer... at least he's more "honest" about it compared to dr phil ***gawd***

[rwyatt365]

I dislike Dr Phil with a passion! Everytime I get into a "discussion" at home I get assaulted with some of his catch-phrases ("How's that working for you?!" is the worst). I wouldn't dignify his show with my attention. :thumbsdown:

[The Rose]

Has anyone figured out whether he is an ESTJ or an ENTJ?
I think he's ESTJ because he thinks the same solution works for every person.

[Henry]

Has anyone figured out whether he is an ESTJ or an ENTJ?
I think he's ESTJ because he thinks the same solution works for every person.


ESTJ with a weak T, clearly. No creative capacity, lots of bullshit capacity, lots of concern with normalcy and what's right for others, no nuance etc.

[deicruxified]

ESTJ with a weak T, clearly. No creative capacity, lots of bullshit capacity, lots of concern with normalcy and what's right for others, no nuance etc.
bingo!

[Rei]

Dr. Phil is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't understand how people can stand watching that bull.
The conclusions he draws are so... dumb...

I seriously want to go on the show one day and own his ass.


On the other hand, Judge Judy is an entertaining watch when there's nothing better to do... but only if the people on trial fight back :cheesy:

[Henry]

Dr. Phil is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't understand how people can stand watching that bull.
The conclusions he draws are so... dumb...

I seriously want to go on the show one day and own his ass.


On the other hand, Judge Judy is an entertaining watch when there's nothing better to do... but only if the people on trial fight back :cheesy:

Judge Judy passes judgement on the whole damn person, not the merits of the case, and usually from a perspective that is narrow even for an SJ.


Here's my all time favorite Dr. Phil clip. I think the Bum Fights guy is actually more credible than Dr. Phil.

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[deicruxified]

Here's my all time favorite Dr. Phil clip. I think the Bum Fights guy is actually more credible than Dr. Phil.

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at least the homeless people are getting paid. lol.

"and i think it's an insult to my intelligence..."

great. probably the guy was portraying dr phil's "shadow" hohoho

:edit: strange... i just think that's scripted so just for him to look sp reputable. why would he invite the guy in the first place. had he been sincere with the show's objective of "helping" people, he should've talked nicely to him... duh...

[Rei]

Judge Judy passes judgement on the whole damn person, not the merits of the case, and usually from a perspective that is narrow even for an SJ.


Here's my all time favorite Dr. Phil clip. I think the Bum Fights guy is actually more credible than Dr. Phil.

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Well the point is I enjoy watching her make fun of the person.
I guess what makes me dislike Dr. Phil more is that people actually take him seriously. :yuck:

[Henry]

at least the homeless people are getting paid. lol.

"and i think it's an insult to my intelligence..."

great. probably the guy was portraying dr phil's "shadow" hohoho

:edit: strange... i just think that's scripted so just for him to look sp reputable. why would he invite the guy in the first place. had he been sincere with the show's objective of "helping" people, he should've talked nicely to him... duh...

Yeah if you're talking about his shadow as in "a slightly less coherent version of Dr Phil which clearly illustrates the utter absurdity of the show" then I'd heartily agree.

The "shadow" of Dr. Phil in the jungian sense of the term would be the opposite fulfillment of his ego, personality, and potentialities. Which would mean someone humble but capable, less of an STJ douche, and someone probably not as status oriented as he seems to be.


Well the point is I enjoy watching her make fun of the person.
I guess what makes me dislike Dr. Phil more is that people actually take him seriously.

No doubt. He basically takes the moronic "thou shalt" shit that comes out of the average person's brain and then hyperbolizes it.

And I would like him a lot more, regardless of how seriously others took him, if he took himself less seriously. I mean, FFS, his ego makes Beowulf's look like a daoist monk's! Man needs some Nietzsche and Campbell and Lao Tzu.

[deicruxified]

Yeah if you're talking about his shadow as in "a slightly less coherent version of Dr Phil which clearly illustrates the utter absurdity of the show" then I'd heartily agree.
^^^ exactly...he doesn't want that thing to be aired as he mentioned as he doesn't want to show his hypocrisy. hahahahaha

[Lucid]

Yeah if you're talking about his shadow as in "a slightly less coherent version of Dr Phil which clearly illustrates the utter absurdity of the show" then I'd heartily agree.

The "shadow" of Dr. Phil in the jungian sense of the term would be the opposite fulfillment of his ego, personality, and potentialities. Which would mean someone humble but capable, less of an STJ douche, and someone probably not as status oriented as he seems to be.




No doubt. He basically takes the moronic "thou shalt" shit that comes out of the average person's brain and then hyperbolizes it.

And I would like him a lot more, regardless of how seriously others took him, if he took himself less seriously. I mean, FFS, his ego makes Beowulf's look like a daoist monk's! Man needs some Nietzsche and Campbell and Lao Tzu.

After reading this thread I watched some Dr. Phil on youtube (I hadn't really seen any). There was one clip where a guy who had overcome some kind of exhibitionism disorder was on. Dr. Phil was pretty much just putting the guy down until the guy finally said, "Why haven't you asked me what I've done to overcome the problem?" They had kind of an exchange and Dr. Phil tried to throw him off the show. Is it typical of him to be this unhelpful?

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[The Rose]

Normally people come to the show needing help and he tells them what they need to do in order to straighten themselves out.

[mind_wander]

lol, wow my intent was creating a Dr. Phil INTJ hater's club, but oh well. Hey, I can't control every INTJ's minds in here; it is some harilous humor.

[Paul V]

Never watched it before (not a fan of watching other people air their matters in public, makes me ashamed for them), and thanks to the posts in this thread, I see I made the right choice.

[Allwheelsnmotion]

I really don't like watching the show and after hearing the commercials on the radio (at work) over and over of Dr. Phil giving his "one liners" he has become even more irritating.

Thumbs down.

[GOD]

People seem to enjoy watching other people being publically rejected and humiliated. Judge Judy is probably the best example of this. Not my cup of tea, but I won't lose sleep over watching Dr. Phil or Judge Judy rip someone apart.

Its sort of like the romans did with people and Lions.

Only difference this is the blood sport of the mind.

I'm actually glad I don't own a TV anymore.

PS: I'm beginning to think that I'll be living in my mind 24/7 at this rate....

[Lumbering Jack]

The thing about Dr. Phill is that he's a doctor of chiropractic medicine. He uses the term Dr. and people assume he's a psychologist. He is, in fact, an advice giving chiropractor.

The more you know ;D


Just so you know, Wikipedia* says he has a PhD in psychology...
McGraw graduated from the Midwestern State University in 1975 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology. He went on to earn a master's degree in experimental psychology, and a Ph.D in clinical psychology at the University of North Texas, where his dissertation was titled "Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Psychological Intervention."

* Whatever that's worth.

[deicruxified]

Just so you know, Wikipedia* says he has a PhD in psychology...

and a lot of practicing psychologists are scrutinizing dr phil but i see a lot of sense why they are doing so... he's using media to humiliate people and then people vs other people... one episode i recall about dr phil was the two anorexics he interviewed and he said, "how does she look like to you". in the end, it's the two anorexics mocking each other... plus the audiences...

i say, jerry springer is still the best.

[mind_wander]

and a lot of practicing psychologists are scrutinizing dr phil but i see a lot of sense why they are doing so... he's using media to humiliate people and then people vs other people... one episode i recall about dr phil was the two anorexics he interviewed and he said, "how does she look like to you". in the end, it's the two anorexics mocking each other... plus the audiences...

i say, jerry springer is still the best.

Most definitely and also Wilko. On the Wilko Show, one of Jerry Springer security guard. He is definitely an ENTJ, come on bring it up, you fag. Pick on someone with your size! Makes me laugh, great he have his own tv show because I see he don't care what others think of him. Thinks everything logically and go in your face.

As for the psychology, I think most of INTJ's are pretty much in this field, come on how many times you have to deal with people's problems and management them. Its called conflict management, but it does falls under the similar category.

[Wildflower]

what i don't like about dr phil is that he's using media as a psychological attack to his guests. of course humiliation could be a factor to change but i doubt of it's long-term efficacy

I lost all respect for Dr Phil's judgement when he used the video of the little girl crying in explict languagewith her complete face showing that her father had molested her over and over and over as a promo for his show. She's only three, how can she possibly be used with her consent in such a way?

If her parents were stupid enough to sign a release for that sort of thing, then surely a professional like Dr Phil is supposed to be would have had enough sense not exploit her like that. :thumbsdown:

It was clear that the video added nothing to the facts of the case and was simply a ploy to increase emotions and ratings. JMO.

If I wanted to watch that type of show, I would just rather be open and honest and cut to the chase and watch Springer or Cheaters.


Also I remember the show where he was "treating" the Anorexic and he was in her face (She's just this pale, shadow looks like his windbag self is going to blow her away) SHOUTING at her drill sergent style: "IF YOU DON'T EAT YOU'RE GONNA DIE!"

Oh, really, you think so Mr. Genius? Does he not realize that if this approach would really work, her friends and family could have cured her long ago? Does he not read research suggesting that it has a deeper adrenal hormone component that makes it harder to treat than simply telling someone deep into it to start eating?

Of course he does, his show is just about helping SJ types sit in their easy chair and say "You're so right, you tell'em Dr. Phil!" Sickening...

The other names that irk me are "Dr. Laura" and "John Gray." Ugh!

[Lucid]

Just so you know, Wikipedia* says he has a PhD in psychology...


* Whatever that's worth.

Well I could certainly be wrong. I am taking an advanced reporting class and my teacher was showing us how to use databases of public records. Doctors' qualifications are public record and he told us that the only Ph.D. Dr. Phill had was in chiropracty. Maybe he was wrong about it. Although it's also possible that Wikipedia has the information wrong. If I think of it after finals I'll check the AMA and APA databases (providing of course, that it's free) and see what I find. :)

Of course he does, his show is just about helping SJ types sit in their easy chair and say "You're so right, you tell'em Dr. Phil!" Sickening...

The other names that irk me are "Dr. Laura" and "John Gray." Ugh!

Agreed!
Is John Gray one of the ones who claims to talk to people's dead relatives?

[Wildflower]

Well I could certainly be wrong. I am taking an advanced reporting class and my teacher was showing us how to use databases of public records. Doctors' qualifications are public record and he told us that the only Ph.D. Dr. Phill had was in chiropracty. Maybe he was wrong about it. Although it's also possible that Wikipedia has the information wrong. If I think of it after finals I'll check the AMA and APA databases (providing of course, that it's free) and see what I find. :)

Maybe this is what is coming to mind:

While listening to the two tell their respective sides of the story, Dr. Phil pointed out that he is a chiropractic patient himself, and actually sees a chiropractor regularly: "I'm a big believer in chiropractic," Dr. Phil comments. "And I - I've got a chiropractor that I see, two or three times a week here in L.A." (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)


Also Dr Phil is featured on the anti-chiropractor site "Quackbusters" without it saying it he is a chiropractor, I think if he was it would have said it. The guy who runs that page virtually spits venom at the mere mention of Chiropractor so I think he would be all over that if Dr. Phil were one.

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Anyway, will be interesting to see what you find. :)


Agreed!
Is John Gray one of the ones who claims to talk to people's dead relatives?

He is the "Mars and Venus" guy. You know those books that maintain that ALL men are some extreme form of IT and ALL women are the most frivilous EF that could be imagined? A soft sell of every gender stereotype there has ever been which apparently gets its roots from Eastern religions and reguritates them into a New Age soup.

People are always trying to say he is INFP. :irked: Here is the info on John Gray's "Phd" and his influences. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

[deicruxified]

Also I remember the show where he was "treating" the Anorexic and he was in her face (She's just this pale, shadow looks like his windbag self is going to blow her away) SHOUTING at her drill sergent style: "IF YOU DON'T EAT YOU'RE GONNA DIE!"

i watched that... and it was the sickest dr phil show i have ever seen.

[Hypomanic]

Dr. Phil is not iNtuitive, or if he is, he acts very Sensor-ish.
He's definitely a J.. or if he isn't he acts like one.

Weird.. SJ.. that's not common for psychologists. It's anti-common.
But anyway, I'd say he's a ESFJ or ISFJ.

[Snowdragon]

Dr. Phil is a hack. He's just another Hyped-up self-promoter. I'm not smashing the tough love method. That biddy Dr. Laura may give out questionable advice "Oh Elliot, come over here, I'll make you feel like a REAL man" yet she hasn't left a trail of lawsuits and professional enemies in her wake (like Dr. Phil). Back in 1989, he was reprimanded by the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists for having an inappropriate relationship with a 19-year old client. "Dr." Phil was required to attend ethics classes, undergo a psychological evaluation, have his practice supervised for a year, pass a jurisprudence exam, and complete a physical evaluation. As of 2008, "Dr." Phil HAS NOT COMPLETED ANY OF THEM!

Don't get me started on the trail of lawsuits. One of them was back in 2003, his "weight loss" products labeled "shape up" claimed that "These products contain scientifically researched levels of ingredients that can help you change your behavior to take control of your weight". HE ISN'T A REAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS A PHYSICIAN??!!(he is not physician or a psychologist BTW) What made "Shape up" ship out was an investigation by the Federal Trade Commission and class action lawsuits by people who have used them and claimed that they were ripped off.

Another one was in 2006, filed by the Kalpoe brothers who claimed that the interviews that was done by "Dr." Phil was manipulated and later broadcasted portraying them as "criminals" against Natalee Holloway.

Dr.Phil is not licesned to practice in California, Texas, or anywhere else.